I have an E65 and a N80 and I would say the E65 is a more refined version of the N80. I agree with Rcadden...sure it brings nothing new to the table, but it definately is in the same range as the N80. It does every major function the N80 can do, with the cons being the lower pixel camera without a flash(not like the N80's camera is that great in the first place) and the QVGA screen. Everything else about the E65 is a pro. First and foremost, build quality...the E65 is solid...phone doesn't wobble, creak, and the slide works and feels much like the 8801's. Second, battery life is substantially better than the N80, even though that's not saying much since we all know that's the N80's biggest knock. Third, this phone is thin...it's basically the bottom half of the N80...about as thin as a RAZR when folded...you seriously don't notice it in your pocket. Fourth, the E65 is very responsive, menus and the wifi on the N80 lagged, even after flashing to the N80ie...the E65 is snappy and the wifi doesn't lag. Again, the phone brings nothing new to the table in technological aspects, but IMO it's a better phone than the N80