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Whichway2Capeside
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I dont think they should do this movie yet. It's too soon.
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Hybrid-Angel
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Yeah, thats a tastful idea. 
Um.....people get brutally murdered and butchered in real life, which is depicted in horror movies. Yet, people don't think it's sad and horrible when someone is murdered in a horror movie. In fact, they think blood and gore is awesome and funny in a horror movie. Yet, when a movie comes along like this, suffering and death is suddenly a sad thing. Totally hypocritical.
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ANGELforBUFFY
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I didnt want to see United 93, but i finally did. I though they did a great job doing it. After much talking with my mother. I think we will see this movie 2. It looks like they did a great job.
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shrrshrr
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No, I didn't, and healthy, respectful debate is a good thing, so don't worry. 
UnsilentMajority - I have looked up the definition of 'exploitive' and there's no question the film falls into all four of its primary definitions. I think you might be interpreting my words, which isn't surprising considering the frequent mis-use of the term (I'm sure you didn't mean to - you know I respect and like you tremendously).
I simply meant that people will be profitting off the events of that day, and I doubt it's the families of the victims. I could be wrong about that, but I doubt it, and that's exploitive. It's not strictly unethical, but it's in exceptionally bad taste.
Now, if the profits were to go to the survivors and victims' families, I'd still have trouble with the film, but I'd feel a lot less put-off by it all.
Finally, I still find it sad and disturbing that documentary footage of the day isn't enough to let Jane and Joe Average (if indeed they're the ones who need to see this film, as Childhood Magic claims - but which I disagree with) understand how horrible those events were. I know many, MANY people fall into this category, and again - I'm not one of them, and I'm glad I'm not one of them.
I don't think movies have to strictly be entertaining - of course not - but I think there are other ways of approaching the topic. And UnsilentMajority - I do agree that telling a specific story is in better taste than making things up - as with Pearl Harbor and Titanic - but that's not enough for me to be okay with this movie.
*shrug* I respectfully disagree.
UnsilentMajority - I have looked up the definition of 'exploitive' and there's no question the film falls into all four of its primary definitions. I think you might be interpreting my words, which isn't surprising considering the frequent mis-use of the term (I'm sure you didn't mean to - you know I respect and like you tremendously).
I simply meant that people will be profitting off the events of that day, and I doubt it's the families of the victims. I could be wrong about that, but I doubt it, and that's exploitive. It's not strictly unethical, but it's in exceptionally bad taste.
Now, if the profits were to go to the survivors and victims' families, I'd still have trouble with the film, but I'd feel a lot less put-off by it all.
Finally, I still find it sad and disturbing that documentary footage of the day isn't enough to let Jane and Joe Average (if indeed they're the ones who need to see this film, as Childhood Magic claims - but which I disagree with) understand how horrible those events were. I know many, MANY people fall into this category, and again - I'm not one of them, and I'm glad I'm not one of them.
I don't think movies have to strictly be entertaining - of course not - but I think there are other ways of approaching the topic. And UnsilentMajority - I do agree that telling a specific story is in better taste than making things up - as with Pearl Harbor and Titanic - but that's not enough for me to be okay with this movie.
*shrug* I respectfully disagree.
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Ron_Cullen
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No matter how much time passes, it will always be too soon. If they do the movie in 2007 or 2008 or 2010 or 2020 it will always be to soon. Yeah, what happened was a tragedy, like they say "the greatest attack since Pearl Harbor" but eventually these movies will come out and if anything I'm glad they are doing them now. The fact that the families are ready for it is all ready showing a big step.
While I still haven't seen United 93 (and I'm dying to do so) I now plan on seeing this one even if I go at it alone.
While I still haven't seen United 93 (and I'm dying to do so) I now plan on seeing this one even if I go at it alone.
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Liliya
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I saw World Trade Center on Wednesday with my friend and I have to say it was a beautiful movie. It was heartbreaking of course and I cried during most of the movie, but I'm glad that I saw it.
At first I wasn't going to see the movie but then I found out that Oliver Stone was directing it and the more previews I saw the more I wanted to go and see it. It really moved me to see all the people coming together to help each other. Even though I will never know how it felt to be at Ground Zero that day this movie has helped me to empathize more with those that perished and survived that day. If a movie was going to be done about September 11 then this was the right way to do it. It wasn't about the terrorists, or any conspiracy but it was about the people who were brought together and how they pulled through during such a tragedy. So for that I am very thankful.
At first I wasn't going to see the movie but then I found out that Oliver Stone was directing it and the more previews I saw the more I wanted to go and see it. It really moved me to see all the people coming together to help each other. Even though I will never know how it felt to be at Ground Zero that day this movie has helped me to empathize more with those that perished and survived that day. If a movie was going to be done about September 11 then this was the right way to do it. It wasn't about the terrorists, or any conspiracy but it was about the people who were brought together and how they pulled through during such a tragedy. So for that I am very thankful.
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Cotton Candy
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I totally hear you shrr, but there's another point of view here. Maybe the victims would have wanted us to see these films so that, on some level, we can all really experience the trauma that these people went through. I know that just from watching the tv movie, Flight 93, I gained a greater sense of loss and understanding about what happened on 9-11. Movies aren't always made for entertainment purposes (as I'm sure you already know), sometimes there's a greater goal in mind.
Again, I totally get where you're coming from and I've pondered the question myself, but ultimately I came to the conclusion that making these movies is a good thing as long as the families of the victims are behind the projects 100%.
Again, I totally get where you're coming from and I've pondered the question myself, but ultimately I came to the conclusion that making these movies is a good thing as long as the families of the victims are behind the projects 100%.
i saw it and it had a lot of heart to it. no mention of conspiracy or terrorism. it's just real-life courage story between two survivors the movie is based on.
I do have to admit, it started alittle slow but the beautiful snapshots of the daily life in NY made up for that.
i was expecting more scores in this film. i did shed a tear or two about 70% into the film.
I do have to admit, it started alittle slow but the beautiful snapshots of the daily life in NY made up for that.
i was expecting more scores in this film. i did shed a tear or two about 70% into the film.
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shrrshrr
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I don't think there's ever a time for this movie. I continue to think it's in exceptionally bad taste and exploitive to make movies about real events such as these.
I know I'm in the minority, which only makes it all that much more awful to me.
I know I'm in the minority, which only makes it all that much more awful to me.
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S.A.S.H.A.
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I just saw the trailer on the news. Looks like a movie with a lot of heart. Reminded me of Ladder 49. I'll probably watch it on DVD when it comes out.
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Bumping this up since the film has been released ...
I attended a showing on Wednesday. I will admit to being a little bit hesitant in that I wasn't sure what I was about to see. Like many people September 11 is a sensitive topic for me and I don't even live in New York (though I one day hope to). I didn't want to see such a tragedy exploited (not that I necessarily thought it would be but you never know with this kind of thing) and I can honestly say it wasn't. It wasn't a big Hollywood film. It was quiet and beautiful. And after seeing it I can honestly say I have never been more proud to be an American ... or a human being. Was it sad? Of course. It would be impossible to eliminate the sadness from such a tragedy. But Stone managed to infuse a sense of hope into the film you couldn't help but be moved by. I think the tagline says it best with "The world saw evil that day. Two men saw something else." And this film allows us a brief glimpse into what it was they saw.
I attended a showing on Wednesday. I will admit to being a little bit hesitant in that I wasn't sure what I was about to see. Like many people September 11 is a sensitive topic for me and I don't even live in New York (though I one day hope to). I didn't want to see such a tragedy exploited (not that I necessarily thought it would be but you never know with this kind of thing) and I can honestly say it wasn't. It wasn't a big Hollywood film. It was quiet and beautiful. And after seeing it I can honestly say I have never been more proud to be an American ... or a human being. Was it sad? Of course. It would be impossible to eliminate the sadness from such a tragedy. But Stone managed to infuse a sense of hope into the film you couldn't help but be moved by. I think the tagline says it best with "The world saw evil that day. Two men saw something else." And this film allows us a brief glimpse into what it was they saw.
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~AppleJacks~
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I think that it is way too early for these type of movies. Although if the Families are ok with them being made, then the only thing we can do is just not see them. Maybe if they waited another couple of years I would think differently
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UnsilentMajorty
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I am eagerly awating this film because I recently visited Ground Zero in the heart of NY City. I also visited St. Paul's Cathedral which was the temporary command post during 9/11 (which also sits directly across the street from the former WTC as well).
As I said earlier, unless you lived in NYC in 2001... You have absolutely NO idea as to what went on that day in terms of the sheer panic and terror... But what really surprised me was how fast the city got back on its feet after the worst terrorist attack in human history. The towers fell around 10:30 AM and the city was back up and running (it never really stopped) by 12:00 PM. Of course, it wasn't the same if this had never happened, but the point is even admidst all the sorrow and tradgedy there was an unbreakable human spirit... Which you can still sense at GZ and St. Paul's... And that is what I think is important about this film as it is another aspect... An important, life affirming aspect... Which needs to be conveyed.
As I said earlier, unless you lived in NYC in 2001... You have absolutely NO idea as to what went on that day in terms of the sheer panic and terror... But what really surprised me was how fast the city got back on its feet after the worst terrorist attack in human history. The towers fell around 10:30 AM and the city was back up and running (it never really stopped) by 12:00 PM. Of course, it wasn't the same if this had never happened, but the point is even admidst all the sorrow and tradgedy there was an unbreakable human spirit... Which you can still sense at GZ and St. Paul's... And that is what I think is important about this film as it is another aspect... An important, life affirming aspect... Which needs to be conveyed.
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Moonlight~Pixie
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I kind of agree. It's still too heartbreaking for some people. I know when United 93 came out there was kind of a debate going on about it. Families of the victims were kind of upset and stuff.
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jalapeno_wildchild
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they've already made United 93, which i thought when i went to see it was nicely done considering what its about. i would probably go see this new movie about the World Trade Center. We've all seen the footage and we all remember the aftermath, all they're doing is making a movie out of it. United 93 was made WITH the support of the victimss families, so i'm sure this new movie will have the same kind of backing and support.
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Jennifer ~*Justified1/2*~
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I am sooo against this movie. Time hasn't passed that much for them to make a movie like this.
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shrrshrr
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Since we already had a thread I went ahead and merged them.
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Jennifer ~*Justified1/2*~
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Plot Summary for World Trade Center (2006)
In the aftermath of the World Trade Center disaster, hope is still alive. Refusing to bow down to terrorism, rescuers and family of the victims press forward. Their mission of rescue and recovery is driven by the faith that under each piece of rubble, a co-worker, a friend a family member may be found. This is the true story of John McLoughlin and William J. Jimeno, the last two survivors extracted from Ground Zero and the rescuers who never gave up. It's a story of the true heroes of that fateful time in the history of the United States when buildings would fall and heroes would rise, literally from the ashes to inspire the entire human race.
In the aftermath of the World Trade Center disaster, hope is still alive. Refusing to bow down to terrorism, rescuers and family of the victims press forward. Their mission of rescue and recovery is driven by the faith that under each piece of rubble, a co-worker, a friend a family member may be found. This is the true story of John McLoughlin and William J. Jimeno, the last two survivors extracted from Ground Zero and the rescuers who never gave up. It's a story of the true heroes of that fateful time in the history of the United States when buildings would fall and heroes would rise, literally from the ashes to inspire the entire human race.