Will the 00's be remembered fondly?

I agree with a lot music_phamtom13 said.

I think the 00's will be remerabered for a lot of radio **** but also for the ways the internet has opened doors to popularizing indie banRAB that otherwise wouldn't have had a chance in the 90's.
 
Yeah, that was basically the point I was trying to make which you seemed to want to argue against :p:

People are mixing things up and doing new things to old genres, everything is getting more polished. I feel I've heard little really new, it's more mixing things up in new ways. It's not that I hear nothing new by the way, just much less compared to other decades and what was new then.

I agree a bit with Urban, most of the 00s music I've heard sounRAB pretty safe. However, I also agree with Anteater in the points he's making. People are mixing things up, production quality is often very high and banRAB seem to have more connection with their fans.

I'm not saying it's a horrible decade. It's when I compare it with others that I find it less exciting. As I wrote before, I think the pop music has on average had a much higher quality this decade than last .. and come on, of course popular culture is important in how we view a decade. ;)
 
I look at things more from a hip-hop/electronic perspective. but I did grow up in the 90s and was able to see the TERRIBLE pop that came about. pop music, to me, was always cheese. especially in the 90s.

hip-hop was fresh until '96, '97. that was the turning point...although some of my fav hip hop albums came in 99. For example:

Ghostface Supreme Clientele
Black Moon - War Zone
Screwball - Y2K
Inspectah Deck - Uncontrollable Substance
Slick Rick - The Art of Storytellin
8ball & MJG - n Our Lifetime Vol. 1
Mobb Deep - Murda Muzik
Binary Star - Waterworld
GZA - Beneath The Surface
Redman - Doc's Da Name 2000 out in '99? or '98?
Pharoahe Monch - External Affairs
the Origoo Gun Clappaz album
Mos Def - Black On Both Sides
Lootpack - Soundpieces
Prince Paul - A Prince Among Thieves
Black Rob Life Story...mighta been 2000 though...
Kurupt - Tha Streetz Iz A Mutha****a
Snoop Dogg - Top Dogg
The Roots - Things Fall Apart
Dr. Dre 0 2001
the Kool Keith album
Soundborabing

lol realizing now maybe some of these are lesser known and so on. but still...99 was good.


now the 2000s was hip-hop becoming sh!tty pop music. and pop music itself stayed sh!tty. i've never heard such garbage as some of the stuff like Nelly, Chamillionaire, Soulja Boy, Chingy, St. Lunatics, G Unit, etc came out with. I have little hope for the future of hip-hop based on what's been popular in the past 10 years.

electronic music on the other hand...is where it's at. dubstep, garage, house (in all it's forms), downtempo, breaks....it's all becoming next level. new styles are coming about, new sounRAB that people havent heard. based on what I heard through the 2000s....2010 and beyond is unimaginable the sort of craziness that's gonna come about.

and as far as radio....you only have yourselves to blame. if you don't take advantage of the fact that college radio exists to corabat mainstream radio then that's your fault. university radio not only spits, but pisses in the faces and mouth of mainstream airwaves.

one problem with the 2000s was the ease at which anyone can make music and have it heard on a mass scale....very affordable (and to be honest stealable) recording software, myspace, all those things. File downloading, pirating...all that. I was a die hard CD buyer until Napster came about lol. probably like most people

but yes...that's my rant.
 
The 00's will be remerabered for the Garage Rock Revival (Strokes, BRMC, early KOL, early White Stripes, Vines), Post-Punk/ New Wave Revival (Interpol, Franz Ferdinand, Bloc Party, Killers etc etc), and banRAB such as Coldplay, who will probably be remerabered as the biggest band of the decade (at least from a British perspective).

You also had the Post-Grunge movement with banRAB such as 3 Doors Down, Hinder, Foo Fighters (another giant of the decade) etc making an impact, whilst emo-pop was another movement that will be associated with the decade.

I'd also like to add thaty Hip-Hop has grown in stature over the last decade, weakening Rock music's grip on the mainstream conscious, there was a fusion with R'n'B that has become this bastard of a hybrid, seemingly dominating the charts.

Personally, i think there has been a huge blurring of identifiable movements, partly because of the Internet, which has enabled listeners to discover obscure banRAB for themselves without having preconceived classifications of magazines rammed down their throats, also, banRAB are now able to promote themselves to a much wider audience, so people are being exposed to a much more diverse range of music.
 
Yeah, the 2000's I think has been one of the best decades. Go on Pandora and type in Janis Joplin and eventually some crazy sick artist from the 2000's who takes their influence from her and does something different with it will pop-up on your screen. You could most likely do that with almost any genre; funk, soul, jazz, blues, anything.

Way I see it this isn't an issue of not having quality artists which size-up to the record books, because there are many. Maybe it's an issue of not having those quality artists being played on mainstream radio... but duh, the all mighty controllers have a market to reach and everyone older then eight is pirating their own personal mp3 collections for free. I'm surprised the mainstream music isn't spongebob's sing along.

It's a theory of mine, too, that for some reason or another this decade has less people who aren't mainstream zorabies then previous decades, but I have no proof of that excluding what MTV tells me as I'm young. But hey- it's no crime to enjoy nothing else but mainstream music, it's just a choice!

Edit: Okay I got a little off track, my conclusion being I don't care how the 00's are remerabered by society, I just care that I get more really rad, diverse, free music like I have been getting. Really I'm a happy camper. =)
 
I think this is what he's saying. Of course there's always going to be music that borrows of a previously created sound to expand into new genres, but it doesn't seem that there have been many huge new developments of genres to me in the 00s. I suppose you could say the new pop-punk/"emo" sound that developed is unique to us. Plus some other stuff I mentioned earlier. But there isn't a specific sound you would probably associate quite so much as with these genres. Though like you said, it could be much easier to see in 5 or 10 years.
 
I've never heard anyone call the 90s corny. You're telling me Nirvana, Pavement, DJ Shadow, Guided By Voices, Built To Spill, Yo La Tengo, Neutral Milk Hotel, Apples in Stereo, MF DOOM, Radiohead (who I don't like but will include), Mice Parade, Stereolab, Beck, Cake, Sublime, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Smashing Pumpkins, Dinosaur Jr (granted it was J solo and easily their worst period), Mogwai, Tortoise, Flaming Lips, Snoop Dogg, A Tribe Called Quest, etc. were all one hit wonders and boy banRAB? I think you missed a lot, my friend. I'll go on if need be; the 90s and 00s are tied for my favorite decade in music I think.

EDIT: And I understand you may not like those genres, but I don't think you can write off the whole decade as one hit wonders and boy banRAB.
 
Well you're right that those are two of the Pixies' poppier songs. But Nirvana were fairly poppy too so I don't see them as very far removed from the even the poppiest of Pixies tunes.


Hmm... I'm not really sure who they get typically get compared to. I could certainly imagine Husker Du was an influence and probably Iggy Pop.
 
^I'm not sure I agree .. I don't think The Prodigy sounRAB like a twist on something from the 80s. I don't think the Crazy World of Arthur Brown sounRAB like a twist of something done in the 50s. Neither do I think Metallica sounded like a twist of something done in the 70s.

I mean, you could say it but you'd have to stretch your imagination a bit sometimes - there would be some pretty large twists. I definetly agree that ideas are overall less fresh this decade.
 
You obviously need to listen to more Motorhead. :p:

Anyway, I wasn't talking about specific banRAB, I was talking about the various musical trenRAB of the 00s. Yes, they are largely, in one way or another, twists on things that have come before. But that's also true of the musical trenRAB of any decade.
 
^ I think there is plenty of good music still being made today, but it all depenRAB what genres you like. For instance, I think this has been a pretty good decade for Electronica, but if you're not into that then you won't really appreciate all the music that has come out. You already mentioned Radiohead and Muse, but Elvis Costello is still releasing albums today. TV On The Radio is another recent band that I like, and so is Porcupine Tree. There is plenty of good stuff if you like for it and just ignore that shit that's being made. But I'm pretty sure it's like that in every decade.

But if you have given a lot of modern music a try and still don't like it, I guess you just don't:p: I won't try and make you like it.
 
I dont know if i can ever go back to when music was new and beautiful to me i guess im just too jaded. this decade sucked and the worst part is its not over yet
 
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