Will Serious Western animation ever rival Serious Eastern animation?

The thing about serials is that they can really outstay their welcome after a bit. In the UK serials have been the standard format for TV dramas since year dot (or thereabouts), and have traditionally been really, really short. That's starting to change recently but I'd say that it's generally been nine episodes tops, six episodes average, and three episodes not unheard of. And no, that's not just seasons. I'm talking about entire series here. Not series that have been cancelled mid-run, either - simply series that were designed to be short.

I'd be happy to watch a 13-epper like Lain or Paranoia Agent. But all 291 episodes of Dragonball Z...? See, a number like that's fine in an episodic series where you're not expected to watch the whole thing, but as serials go it's not always the best approach to storytelling. It follows that the longer a series is hoped to run by its producers, the more episodic it'll be.



And while we're here let's not forget that it's not too hard to tell a long-running story when you're just adapting a pre-existing comic that also has a long-running story.

Or has that been mentioned already? I've lost track.
 
...Rotting apple? whats that all about.


& Queens Blade being better then Loony Tunes...I doubt that anyone would say that....because the would be BLASPHEMY! BLASPHEMY I SAY!!!!:mad:


Also Agree about Quenns Blade, Its jsut fan-service trying to disquise itself as a tournament series & doing it poorly, The whole show is a Disgrace to the arts of Animation & Swordsmanship! (Clare needs to go & Take Care of the QB Girls..show em what a REAL Female Warrior can do!):evil:
 
It is more of a rant style, which doesn't include clips usually. He only used a clip in the first one to show the game. If you don't like the style, I guess you won't get to see it. it really has tons of points, including less frame rate, as well as more key frames in Japanese animation.
 
And yet, one of the wrost examples can animate a mouth better.(look, I just hate post-laid mouth flaps.)

But, yeah. a bit unfair.

What I meant is that the cartoons of old, from 20's to 70's have mostly been on the silly scale. It didn't help the West that cartoons have started this way since paper(think Dennis the Menace). I recall a comment on a YouTube video, before it was taken down.

A YouTuber's comment: "Cartoons have mostly been silly whereas anime has mostly gone from relationships, intensivness, and fighting. I remember one person still watching Nickelodeon at the age of 13..." Not truly accurate, but it went something like this.

Video Owner's Response: "Oh, give me a break. If I wanted to see a Soap Opera, I pay money to see a Live Action Movie, not a cartoon. Of course cartoons are going to be silly. Last time I checked, animation didn't originate from 'Grave of the Fireflies.'"
 
I was arguing with Marn whether JLU had a better plot then YGO, that's why I gave the exaggerated plot explanation for YGO.



But that doesn't mean anything, having more sex and violence in something doesn't make it mature. TDI has more sexual content that your average kids cartoon, that doesn't mean its aimed at adults.



But if the main serialized plot is stupid I would rather have a bunch of stand alone episodes then a big plot that makes no sense



Except a lot other "Filler" episodes in JLU were good character spot light episodes, those don't seem like a waste to me.



Well batman has a moral code agaisnt killing the Joker, but seriously there so many plot holes in YGO, I could derail the thread with them, which I don't want to do. I will just say I still don't get how a card games become the most popualr thing in the universe in the show and is somehow more important then the super Bowl and the World Cup.

Yeah JLU isn't as serialized as YGO, but its better written and that's what matters most. A serialized plot that makes no sense is useless to me.



I don't care, a serialized plot doesn't make something good, Heroes has a serialized plot and that show sucks, the plot makes no sense. I would take Seinfeld which has no serialized plot over Heroes any day.

I also think most people would think the first 8 seasons of the Simpsons is way better then Mega Man 8.

I think you are being too black and white here, saying that something with a serialized plot instantly better then something without it, is too much of an abosolute me.



The episode with Living Laser seemed like filler to me. It seems you are splitting hairs here.
 
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