Why are so many people losing a sense of formality or elegance?

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Babygirl

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It is just the way it is...you could ask any young man nowadays about chivalry and they would say "whhhaaattt? Is that a new video game?" I am a teen myself but I have always lived in the olden days....i would have loved too.....i guess people just dont care anymore. It is completely saddening. They feel like"I'm not a celebrity or a worldwide role model why should i set an example?" but what about their kids, and their grandkids? they dont think about them?
I really have never understood the whole baggy ghetto pants.....and sweats to school thing...never have never will :)) hope that helped in some way?
 
My husband just took me out to a lovely Italian restaurant. We consider this a "dress-up" place for special occasions; we're in Ohio and the cheapest entree is $15, so it's not cheap. But there we saw two older men in shorts, sandals, and t-shirts, drinking beer and soda from bottles. It was depressing. If I want to see that, I can go to any sports bar and spend a lot less money.

On another front, I teach at an all-girls' high school. On dress down days, they look like slobs and thugs. They wear sweatpants pulled down so their underwear shows, or pyjama bottoms. You would think they would want to dress up in their cutest clothes, but they don't.

So why is our society abandoning a sense of decorum, formality, and elegance, in favor of this shabby, sloppy, super-casual culture where anything goes, anywhere? And do you think it's good or bad? I will definitely pick a best answer, and you don't have to agree with me if you support your point well. Thanks!
 
Honestly, as long as i am not looking at a bunch of t&a hanging out, I dont really care how the other clients at any type of resturant are dressed. I came for the food, not to admire everyone else's wardrobe. And while 15$ a plate isnt cheap, it is by NO means, formal dining.

I think its good that we are relaxing how formal people have to dress. Its uncomfortable, and sucks being formal all the time. Sometimes its nice to just let your hair down and not care about how prim and proper you look. Its more comfortable. its easier. And often, less formal clothing is drastically more functional. Or, at the very least, if you want to go play a game of ball you dont have to say, oops, I cant, my dress is too fancy and has to be dry cleaned, it might get dirty.

Besides, what exactly is wrong with being casual? Do you own stock in a formal clothing line or something? Why care so much about something that does not effect you in any way, other than giving you something to complain about?
 
part of it is laziness. but they also see this in movies and a lot of music dvd's. who sets an example for them? parents don't demand the, they usually go along with what ever causes the least amount of arguing. we need to expect more of formality and elegance just as we expect more on education. i've been made fun of for trying to teach my kids simple good manners and to dress well. how many others have had the same thing happen. don't have to dress expensive just with descent taste.
 
I would say it is the responsibility of the restaurant to set a dress code.

Being a child of the 70's, not exactly a time of decorum, formality and elegance I tend to look back to the 40's and 50's and I also adore the original series Upstairs Downstairs because of its portrayal of a gentler society.

Fashions come and go but if it is widely accepted that people can dress down then you may just have to grit your teeth for a good while longer
 
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