Knight De La Barre
New member
...things!? WARNING!! IT IS GOING TO BE A LONG QUESTION!
Ok i have been in this section about 15 months on and off and i have seen plenty questions or answers, from several members, who basically describing White Americans "weak,not natural,not slick,not good enough" for the sport that blacks and Mexicans according to Mayweather dominate over 40 years!(I guess the 237 White European (A fact not a claim) titles holders in this same amount of time do not count or something !
I have seen some members who give their top 12 or so based in boxing and no other factors,answering all kind of questions which are connected with the sport of boxing and race,whenever it was ok for them i guess,because they would call me racist (when i am the only one who has always give official numbers and facts for his claims i believe) !
Ok i make this question in defense of white Americans who i consider "Fathers" of Modern Professional Boxing (1885 and after) because i believe judging from movies "White men Can't jump" "Great White Hope",quotes of famous American sportspeople like Bernard Hopkins,Mayweather,Charles Barkley and the notorious Spike Lee,have as target the genetics and DNA of the white American man and i consider this EXTREMELY racist!Plenty members in here have make from time to time even worse claims in here or other boxing forums for white American (and not only) Boxers considering White American men inferior and weaker !If my judgment has "lie" to me and i am wrong please correct and educate me!
Now i have the following questions after i made all this prologue and i seek for an answer
1) How White Americans from 1885 until mid to late 60's were such a great ( i will stick to my promise and never use words of bigotry as domination) group of people in the sport and all of a sudden with the rise of other opportunities (Hollywood-Pop and Rock Music,Fashion,TV,Wall street i do not need to keep going) or other safer and higher paid sports (Tennis-Golf-NAscar-Baseball-Football) white Americans stopped fighting and focused in other things ?Does money and other factors played a huge role to the decline of white Americans in the sport?
2) Some people want to deny it but in some specific sports race is the main factor!Blacks in sprints,Whites in swimming,Asians in Martial arts,have an advantage because of how God has made us,scientists would agree on this!Now to the sport of boxing ,heart,courage,chin,power and other factors can exist to every race not true?Now i ask you and myself!
White Americans,historically,where do they come from?Scientifically what is the difference between a white American-white European-white South American-white Australian?0-zero-zip,only difference is language,coin and nationality!Scientifically same race 100%!
So i ask to myself how Europe-Australia-South America-Canada-South Africa has produce over 300 champions the last 40 years (that blacks and Mexicans dominate the sport always according to Mayweather) but White Americans have produce so few?So is it genetic or financial and cultural thing?(Whoever disagrees,take me a White-Euro,take a White American,then a Nigerian man-an African American,a Chinese man and an Asian-American and do us genetic test and let's see scientifically who matches whoSo the question here is,how white American man is "weak' for the sport, when his "fathers" (Scientifically and historicaly) produce countless dominating champions for decades?So since it's not genetic,it must be a cultural or financial thing right?
3) In US it is a trend,a stereotype,you name it but for some reason only NFL and NBA are "pure" athletic sports and i have notice 9 to 10 members point how Big American men (meaning a specific race of Americans,if i am wrong correct and educate me again) go to these sports now that is why there is lack of talent in Boxing and now i ask 2 things :a)NBA during 80's and 90's was not even bigger than now in rating and NFL has not been there for ever? and b)Sports like Triathlon,Wrestling (Olympic) Cycling Tennis Swimming Rugby and for GOD SAKES football (Soccer to you) does not require pure athleticism,lol ,sorry i am laughing but has any of you try to play soccer,running 90 minutes with no short breaks (basketball) every few minutes?Come on now!
4)I have been called racist plenty of times only by posting facts and real numbers!Blacks are often called slick and fast because of their race,Mexicans are warriors because of their heart and heredity and Asians very flexible and dynamic because of how God made them!I have never seen once someone to disagree with these things and none call the person who claim all these racist!
Me i have been called racist because i have said (BASED ON FACTS) how the exact "tribe" of people of Eastern European origin are so strong,specially in their upper body and i think sports as weightlifting,strongest man,all field events (Discus-Javelin-hammer etc etc) combat sports as wrestling and kickboxing,amateur boxing and prof
Ok i have been in this section about 15 months on and off and i have seen plenty questions or answers, from several members, who basically describing White Americans "weak,not natural,not slick,not good enough" for the sport that blacks and Mexicans according to Mayweather dominate over 40 years!(I guess the 237 White European (A fact not a claim) titles holders in this same amount of time do not count or something !
I have seen some members who give their top 12 or so based in boxing and no other factors,answering all kind of questions which are connected with the sport of boxing and race,whenever it was ok for them i guess,because they would call me racist (when i am the only one who has always give official numbers and facts for his claims i believe) !
Ok i make this question in defense of white Americans who i consider "Fathers" of Modern Professional Boxing (1885 and after) because i believe judging from movies "White men Can't jump" "Great White Hope",quotes of famous American sportspeople like Bernard Hopkins,Mayweather,Charles Barkley and the notorious Spike Lee,have as target the genetics and DNA of the white American man and i consider this EXTREMELY racist!Plenty members in here have make from time to time even worse claims in here or other boxing forums for white American (and not only) Boxers considering White American men inferior and weaker !If my judgment has "lie" to me and i am wrong please correct and educate me!
Now i have the following questions after i made all this prologue and i seek for an answer
1) How White Americans from 1885 until mid to late 60's were such a great ( i will stick to my promise and never use words of bigotry as domination) group of people in the sport and all of a sudden with the rise of other opportunities (Hollywood-Pop and Rock Music,Fashion,TV,Wall street i do not need to keep going) or other safer and higher paid sports (Tennis-Golf-NAscar-Baseball-Football) white Americans stopped fighting and focused in other things ?Does money and other factors played a huge role to the decline of white Americans in the sport?
2) Some people want to deny it but in some specific sports race is the main factor!Blacks in sprints,Whites in swimming,Asians in Martial arts,have an advantage because of how God has made us,scientists would agree on this!Now to the sport of boxing ,heart,courage,chin,power and other factors can exist to every race not true?Now i ask you and myself!
White Americans,historically,where do they come from?Scientifically what is the difference between a white American-white European-white South American-white Australian?0-zero-zip,only difference is language,coin and nationality!Scientifically same race 100%!
So i ask to myself how Europe-Australia-South America-Canada-South Africa has produce over 300 champions the last 40 years (that blacks and Mexicans dominate the sport always according to Mayweather) but White Americans have produce so few?So is it genetic or financial and cultural thing?(Whoever disagrees,take me a White-Euro,take a White American,then a Nigerian man-an African American,a Chinese man and an Asian-American and do us genetic test and let's see scientifically who matches who
So the question here is,how white American man is "weak' for the sport, when his "fathers" (Scientifically and historicaly) produce countless dominating champions for decades?So since it's not genetic,it must be a cultural or financial thing right?3) In US it is a trend,a stereotype,you name it but for some reason only NFL and NBA are "pure" athletic sports and i have notice 9 to 10 members point how Big American men (meaning a specific race of Americans,if i am wrong correct and educate me again) go to these sports now that is why there is lack of talent in Boxing and now i ask 2 things :a)NBA during 80's and 90's was not even bigger than now in rating and NFL has not been there for ever? and b)Sports like Triathlon,Wrestling (Olympic) Cycling Tennis Swimming Rugby and for GOD SAKES football (Soccer to you) does not require pure athleticism,lol ,sorry i am laughing but has any of you try to play soccer,running 90 minutes with no short breaks (basketball) every few minutes?Come on now!
4)I have been called racist plenty of times only by posting facts and real numbers!Blacks are often called slick and fast because of their race,Mexicans are warriors because of their heart and heredity and Asians very flexible and dynamic because of how God made them!I have never seen once someone to disagree with these things and none call the person who claim all these racist!
Me i have been called racist because i have said (BASED ON FACTS) how the exact "tribe" of people of Eastern European origin are so strong,specially in their upper body and i think sports as weightlifting,strongest man,all field events (Discus-Javelin-hammer etc etc) combat sports as wrestling and kickboxing,amateur boxing and prof