Whats England's culture?

Scribbles

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Seriously, i don't mean to attack them with this and the other post, i thought that was rather amusing, but one of the comments on it got me thinking.

Whats England's Culture?

Well, they don't have one do they? Their language, yet this is a blend of Germanic roots + Latin + French and other Romance Languages + Greek. Can fish and chips be counted as their culture? It seems its all they have. Lucky they say they live in a 'multicultural' society, this way they can hide behind Indian, Pakistani, etc as their own

Again, no attack meant on England.
What? Hows this ignorant? I asked to be educated on England. I can't see your culture, maybe you can tell me what it is, or perhaps realise you don't have one.
Whats truly ignorant and arrogant is the English themselves.

They invaded many foreign lands they had no right to and destoryed their lives, way of living, culture, language, society, and replaced it with their rule.

They did this in America with the Native Americans, they did this with the Aborigines, they did this with the Africans, and they did this with the Scots, to name a few.

Before the English had control over Scotland we had a thriving Culture, we had our Celtic Language, our clothes such as tartan, we had our music, our traditions, our society as a whole. Yet in the present day this has dramatically been destroyed and restricted to a few thousand in the Highlands and Western Isles. Its disgusting. They are trying to make us cultureless like you already are. We were once a proud nation, yet now we are stuck in a union with you - one the people didn't even want in the first place. You spread lies and hatred against us - like you have done throughout the centuries.
Fox - Yes, these are examples of culture, but they are other peoples culture, like you said the aqueducts from the Romans. I mean, what culture do the English people and England have that is actually from them?

N - Firstly, i'd like to point out that the word 'Briton' is derived from 'Brython' which is the ethnic name for the Celtic people who used to live in England and Wales before the Saxons arrived.

Your 'greatest language known to man' is nothing more than a wh/ore of Latin, French, and German along with many others. What is so good about it? And how can you say other countries language isn't as good? Thats degrading other cultures, arrogance.

"Love of god passed on..", what? Modern England is one of the most nonpracticing and atheist countries there is in the world. The Spanish had a far greater influence in religion on the world
Okay, yes i can accept regional ones, your literature, but architecture? Never knew you had a famous, or cultural one.

Your monarchy isn't even yours, they're Germans. Monarchies never represent the people, they're always a mix of the other monarchies found in Europe.
- nokilleye - I see. Thanks for the reply. No, I have no need to comment on American Culture, or as you put it, the lack of it. This was inspired by the comment i got on the other question about someone tarnishing Scottish Culture.

P.S. I thumbed you up.

Okay then, i can see now that perhaps England doesn't have indigenous culture, or not to a great extent, yet you claim the cultures of others and place it into one society.

I will accept you have a culture in terms of literature, and architecture now that i have read on here. Also, your regional cultures, which although are separate to England as a whole, still represent you.

Yet i stand by my claims - well to some degree. You have aspects of culture, but i still don't think its significant enough to compare it to other nations, and the fact of the matter is you've destroyed more cultures across the world and your small culture doesn't compare to that damage.
 
I am English and have lived in other European countries, you are so right.

However what they do have is a kind of local culture of sorts, it's regional: "yorkshire pudding" "Lancashire hotpot" pies, roast dinners, you mentioned fish and chips, cockneys have jellied eels and "knees ups" they have regional cheeses, obviously royalty, thousands of years of civilisation, a deep and rich history.

The reason there are so many Indians etc. as you put it here is after the British left the commonwealth to it's own devices, they offered them the option of a life in Britain and the influx has had an effect on their already diverse culture.

oh wait I just realised our arguments don't hold water I don't like it though, are you from America? well that's been around 200 years or so I suppose.
 
England. A band of happy brothers.

1000 years of Royalty. Good Kings, Bad Kings, Strong Kings,

Mad Kings.

4 Great Queens (Bodicea, Elizabeth 1, Victoria, Elizabeth 2.

Some of the greatest playwrights that ever lived. Shakespeare, Marlowe, Bacon.

Authors, Dickens, Thackeray, Austen, Hardy Chaucer etc

Artists Constable, Turner, Lowry etc

We have a talent for humour, which is envied the world over.

We have some of the greatest rock bands, and solo artists in the world.

We had an Empire and we left a legacy of strong Parliament, law and order, and democracy in many of those now Independant nations.

Our land is a green and pleasant land.

Some may disagree but we are "Great" Britain by adapting to a multicultural society where successive waves of immigrants have found a place where they have been welcomed and where they have prospered, indeed where we have all prospered by being able to live side by side in peace and harmony.
 
What's England's culture ? One of the richest and oldest in the Western world !

Language ? Germanic + Latin + French + Greek....
What's the problem with having a rich language formed by other rich languages ? And anyway being a mix of other languages allowed the English language to be used as THE language of globalization.

English music ? English rock/pop is the best in the world !

English litterature ?
Shakespeare is the master of tragedy and England had a lot of great and influent philosophers.... English litterature is one of the best in the Western world.

English cinema ? Although overall inferior to French or Italian cinema, English cinema has proved to be very pleasant and to have a particular spark to it...

English painting ? I can't think of many English painters, so I can't argue...

English food ? Err.... Okay, it's an English weakness... But a weakness that America inherited, so you can say English food is very influent xD

English architecture ? Visible in all former British colonies, which covered 1/4 of the world... And in the USA of course...
England has a lot of great monuments...

Although not linked to the "culture", it's amazing that such a small country, England, has been able to become the rival of France, a country larger, older, more populated and traditional superpower...

English culture is one of the rare cultures whose influence is visible all around the world. The only other countries whose culture is as influent are France and recently the USA... (With England, the 3 more influential countries in the Western-world.)

Since the USA have been heavily influenced by Western-European cultures (mostly English and French), it brings even more credit to English culture...

I find that question rather offensive, and I'm not English nor British...

Mmh, it's true that it can be said that England destroyed some cultures.... But England also created many others...


Scribble, I never heard the English saying their language was the "greatest languge known to man"...............

The monarchy of England is technically French, not German...
It's the legacy of the Norman/French invasion of 1066.
The French and the English made the Hundred Years' War because of that.... Remember ?

England is one of the most atheist countries in the world...
Yes, just like France and Germany... Does it mean that all those countries never had any religious influence ?
Crusades, remember ???
Oh yes, and the fact that England chosed to become Protestant has caused major European wars which had had heavy influence on today's world...

England's culture is too significant to compare it to other nation's ones???
If we speak of the Western-world, which country can, culturally, be compared to England ???
-There's good old France, that's clear !
-Italy's culture could be compared to England's culture, but military incompetence from Italy prevented Italian culture to spread around the world....
-Germany ? German culture is a big mess left by all the former states that compose Germany, and most of it was destroyed by WW2.... Except German classical music...
-Spain, although major cultural country, was always overshadowed by England and France.....
-Greece was maybe strong culturally 2000 years ago, but not anymore...
-USA ? Born in 1776... Although the USA are catching up very quickly, they can't erase what England's culture brought to the world in the past...
-Switzerland ? Sweden ? Austria ?.....
Let's admit it, England's culture rocks !

That's true, England doesn't really have any indigenous culture. But I'm gonna give examples of other countries which have not any real indigenous culture :
France and the USA...
Will you claim now that France's culture isn't significant enough to be compared to other nation's ones, because it isn't indigenous ? Same for the USA ?
No, because, just like England's culture, their influence is so huge that it would be denying the truth...



I don't know if it's linked to the fact that I'm European and that Nokilleye is American, but I find kind of interesting the difference between our visions of the English culture...
I mean, I speak more of what the English culture brought to the world, whereas Nokilleye speaks more about typically English cultural things.....
Now I'm confused by my answer xD !
 
Sorry had to edit. What you are saying is biased and pathetic rubbish. Scotland was a part of the British empire that did all those so called wicked things which people have demonised when in fact they had noble intent in them. Scots were part of the people that colonized NI too. I'm fed up to the back teeth of this self-righteous, moral-high ground whining. There is not a nation on earth that hasn't done things wrong. Germany killed 6 million. The Roman empire killed. The Americans did. You choose to neglect anything good England has done for your own bias. What about our great literature and science, Darwin, Newton, Bertrand Russell, Turing, DNA discovery, Hawking, Penrose, Keynes, etc etc etc?

Oh and btw, it was Scots that wanted your country to be in the Union, Scottish ruling classes actually. So don't blame us.
 
Well, England has more than one culture.

The Cornish who are considered to be English have a language of their own! Those in Suffolk have a different outlook on life than those from Birmingham for example.

So I can not point you to one thing that makes English Culture as there are so many different sub-cultures in England.
 
Shakespeare is quite cultural, as is the music of Vaughan Williams, we have some great writers such as the Bronte's, Charles Dickens, Jane Austen, to name but a few. Our countryside is full of historical places of interest, much of it is still very much intact, we have castles and Roman aqueducts, medieval city walls that the Saxons and Normans built for us. Victorian buildings and infrastructure that will probably stand for a thousand years if they are looked after correctly. How much 'culture' do you want us to talk about? Or have I misread your question?

Some of our cathedrals are breathtaking too, and the architecture is an amazing achievement. Culture isn't always about fish and chips and shepherds pie, it's about things that we have inherited from our ancestors too.
 
According to J.R.R. Tolkien, England doesn't have a culure (except for the Hobbit and LOTR).

As popular as it is to attribute Arthurian legend to France, I think some kind of statute of limitations has long since elapsed on that one and Aurthur counts at this point as legitimate English culture. Fish & chips may not sound like much on face value but I think it's some pretty formidible culture, and how about tea? It's not indigenous but the ritual and importance of tea etiquette and tea time are definitely unique culture. England has produced some great music, both classical and modern, Victorian architecture has had a huge impact here in the US. We recognize it as a uniquely English contribution to US culture (such as it is... in fact, if you really want to criticize somebody's lack of culture, you might want to take a closer look in my direction next). Monty Python (and world famous dry English humor)! I consider traditional English etiquette and even the negative aspects of the colonial era (with its arrogant assumption that bringing England to the world improves the world) distinct brands of culture. So... I don't know that I've done that good a job describing it and I'm definitely not an expert but I think I recognize a distinctly unique English culture. (You're also right about the Scot culture, I've always thought it's one of the cooler Euro cultures.)

P.S. Oh yeah... and BOMBAY GIN! The finest distilled concoction in all the world! (Beefeeter not that bad either)


P.P.S. Do Scots love the Simple Minds as much as I do?

P.P.P.S. Mr. Jedi Fox saves the day for literature. It never even occured to me with my focus on Tolkien, but Shakespere & Dickens are cultural icons.

What's the thumbs down for? Who's thumbing me down for that?
 
I would suggest you read some social history, there is absolutely loads of books written on it.

I think your ignorant question explains your views?

The Oxford University Press is a good place to start.

Edit read a book, it might just help?

Edit2 read some books and get an education please, your rantings do not deserve my time and effort. If I have to teach it's £25 an hour for a quality education based upon evidence.

History is my pet subject, I would get a 1st at Uni.

Edit3, check your history!

Edit4 A Noble Scot no, a troll yes.

Yet another troll who allows no email.
 
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