Tom Thomas
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Spinning a fan takes very little.
Add in any heater and the wattage rockets
Add in any heater and the wattage rockets
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bearfox_traders
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Hmm well it's something I'll look into, I shall call BG and see what saving I could make going onto a DD bill.
Anyone know of any regulations that councils have to abide by as far as looking after there houses?
It is quite irritating that they say they do this and that to look after there houses. But we have a house potentially from around 1900 and it NEERAB so modernising in the ways of energy efficiency. You would have thought that was this being very much a buzz word at the moment it wouldn't be too much to ask....sadly its seems I'm wrong!
Anyone know of any regulations that councils have to abide by as far as looking after there houses?
It is quite irritating that they say they do this and that to look after there houses. But we have a house potentially from around 1900 and it NEERAB so modernising in the ways of energy efficiency. You would have thought that was this being very much a buzz word at the moment it wouldn't be too much to ask....sadly its seems I'm wrong!
cutetrio2002
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The last one I did was about 3 years ago but I seem to recall them going on a fused spur with a 3A fuse in.
The damp company mostly did work for the councils (worked in some horrid houses with mould like you wouldn't believe)
Most houses had a wall fan which was a heat recovery unit, I think thats what they called it (would make sense) but we put a fan in a flat once and it was in the hallway between all the rooms in the ceiling/loft. Although I personally didn't fit them just gave them a connection point so not massively clued up on the units themselves
The damp company mostly did work for the councils (worked in some horrid houses with mould like you wouldn't believe)
Most houses had a wall fan which was a heat recovery unit, I think thats what they called it (would make sense) but we put a fan in a flat once and it was in the hallway between all the rooms in the ceiling/loft. Although I personally didn't fit them just gave them a connection point so not massively clued up on the units themselves
Colin.... you are indeed a cynic!
Yes i probably would take them with me, but having said that for the sake of 2 lights at £10 each i dont think its quite the same as £500 worth of insulation.
Unfortunatly the council had the same opinion as you where the floor boarRAB are consurned untill they actually came around one day when the people downstairs where home. I dont know if you smoke or not and it really makes no difference to me either way, but when you dont smoke it absolutly stinks, and when your wife is drying washing when the weather is raining and has it inside it dries stinking of fags!
Let alone the second hand smoke!
This is the reason i didnt mention the exact reason the fan was installed in my first post, as it has nothing to do with the issue i have now and knew someone would mention it. If your not a smoker by all means go and spend your next day off in a room with people that do, then imagine that in your own home!
Yes i probably would take them with me, but having said that for the sake of 2 lights at £10 each i dont think its quite the same as £500 worth of insulation.
Unfortunatly the council had the same opinion as you where the floor boarRAB are consurned untill they actually came around one day when the people downstairs where home. I dont know if you smoke or not and it really makes no difference to me either way, but when you dont smoke it absolutly stinks, and when your wife is drying washing when the weather is raining and has it inside it dries stinking of fags!
Let alone the second hand smoke!
This is the reason i didnt mention the exact reason the fan was installed in my first post, as it has nothing to do with the issue i have now and knew someone would mention it. If your not a smoker by all means go and spend your next day off in a room with people that do, then imagine that in your own home!
You need to move up here mate, as for the solar panel thing there on my street doing the flats at the moment not the houses they will get here eventually but the helpline claim they don't know whats going on re the tariff so will have to wait n see, i should imagine we will produce more than we use in a year across spring summer and bright days.
The Dude From the Hood!
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Ring Your local buildcentre tell them you want the N power £1 a roll insulation, order20 rolls of 170mm and insulate the street.
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thing is though their not heaters like a convector, their designed to take the chill off the cold air coming in thats all so id imagine they'd use little power compared to a convector heater type
dylancarmoney
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Yes this was my concern about having it fitted in the first place. Although the guy who fitted the fan took my supply from the lighting circuit, ok i guess for the small load now but with a heater too might just be too much for my little MCB
Yeah we have the ceiling/loft one, quite a big unit really, but don't know whats in it, other than the fan.
Yeah we have the ceiling/loft one, quite a big unit really, but don't know whats in it, other than the fan.
marissasaurus7
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That system, in my eyes, isn't working as it should. The speil says the that air is tempered - but if it feels cold you then it obviously isnt - that thing should heat the air before venting it into the house.
Is it your only heat source? I think I'd switch it off and see if the house temps improve.
Is it your only heat source? I think I'd switch it off and see if the house temps improve.
Gareth Archangel
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20 rolls of 170mm you can have as many 100mm rolls you want.
maybe as its the loft unit it doesn't have a heater? i.e. they don't think it'll pull as cold air from the loft as it will from outside?
I don't know for sure though as I say it was the same supply regardless of the fan. They were nice easy jobs mostly, all council work so surface trunking everywhere which although was ok in itself on a nicely decorated wall looked awful
edit: there isn't some sort of humidistat or other stat on the fan is there? maybe win the loft part?
just an idea but maybe its not set correctly to warm the air? maybe not though but probably worth a look?
I don't know for sure though as I say it was the same supply regardless of the fan. They were nice easy jobs mostly, all council work so surface trunking everywhere which although was ok in itself on a nicely decorated wall looked awful
edit: there isn't some sort of humidistat or other stat on the fan is there? maybe win the loft part?
just an idea but maybe its not set correctly to warm the air? maybe not though but probably worth a look?
carvaz4611
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I'm not doubting at all that you can smell the smoke - the point I'm making is that if smoke gets through so does their heat (heat rises) and therefore all logic would suggest your property has better heat retention that theirs (you have insulation above they don't).
Agreed.
And as good as cavity wall insulation is, it won't be a patch on stopping those draughts.
As for that fan blowing air into the house from the attic, no wonder it's cold
You might as well leave a window wide open instead!
I understand your dilemma between freezing cold or a bit damp, but that would be a no-brainer for me, especially in freezing cold weather (and no you're right, it's not madly cold, but corabined with the wind, it's well nippy).
That'd go straight off.
And as good as cavity wall insulation is, it won't be a patch on stopping those draughts.
As for that fan blowing air into the house from the attic, no wonder it's cold
You might as well leave a window wide open instead!
I understand your dilemma between freezing cold or a bit damp, but that would be a no-brainer for me, especially in freezing cold weather (and no you're right, it's not madly cold, but corabined with the wind, it's well nippy).
That'd go straight off.
This is a council house, tell them you need a visit due to serious concerns over the state of the building, or your health.
Councils went through a period of providing cavity wall and other insulations, they may visit and notice your issue pretty damned quickly! 'Energy efficiency' is the buzz-word of the day, lowering bills - saving the planet, all that; use this as your ammo. Really, you need to get a visit to your cold home, you pay them.
If they refuse I'd contact the CAB and see where you stand. Personally i'd borabard the council after the first visit refusal, then i'd inform them of your withholding council tax until they do visit (but bank the money so you can pay it).
Good luck.
Councils went through a period of providing cavity wall and other insulations, they may visit and notice your issue pretty damned quickly! 'Energy efficiency' is the buzz-word of the day, lowering bills - saving the planet, all that; use this as your ammo. Really, you need to get a visit to your cold home, you pay them.
If they refuse I'd contact the CAB and see where you stand. Personally i'd borabard the council after the first visit refusal, then i'd inform them of your withholding council tax until they do visit (but bank the money so you can pay it).
Good luck.
Opinion101
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Still an electrical heating element though mate.
Which is terribly inefficient for what it does.
Warming air in the attic (which won't be much warmer than outside) neeRAB a lot of energy.
Which is terribly inefficient for what it does.
Warming air in the attic (which won't be much warmer than outside) neeRAB a lot of energy.
No its not, its not used as a heat source at all, although it is obviously contributing to the temperature of the houise but in a negative way, they could fit a heat on it but like i say that could cost alot in ellcy, but we have had these cold issues from before the fan, the fan just makes it worse.
We have a radiator heating system in the house, but it cant keep the place warm without being on 90% of the time
We have a radiator heating system in the house, but it cant keep the place warm without being on 90% of the time
tillsunrisedousapart
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Totally agree just saying it won't be high power like a convector, the poor householders have no choice on placements or anything they were not amused!