What do you think about Eureka 7?

[Tetsujin]

Also, which anime will take the baton from InuYasha when it ends its debut run within the next twelve months? It may still air during the weeknight time slots, but that still leaves Saturday night open.

I thought it was obvious that they're expecting Bleach to replace Inuyasha

How is it obvious? Adult Swim may announce that it acquired some anime property for airing at some future date. That's not the same as stating that the new anime will replace the old anime. Maybe it's likely that Bleach will take over the Inuyasha time slot, but I wouldn't say it's obvious.

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Last night's episode of E7 was the first one which reminded me of NGE. Renton was

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tripping out

and each scene kept screaming WTF in my mind. Even though Renton tends to whine, it's nowhere near the whining done by Shinji Ikari.

E7 stands on its own, but to me last night's episode just felt like something from the later episodes of NGE.

 

[SharinganEyes92]

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As for the "look-alike" line, I thought that Anemone was merely refering to Nirvash's appearance. Also remember Renton's line "It looks like the Nirvash!"

Yeah, I guess I forgot about that. But I think that it applies to both. I mean

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if you look at how the Nirvash and TheEnd look alike, then you also have to take into account their pilots. Remember how Eureka was tripping around the Coralian? Well Anemone was too, except even more. I definitely think that Eureka and Anemone are connected somehow.

But what about

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when Anemone meets Renton in the dream? What did you people make of that? To me, it was as if Anemone tried to get Renton to come with her, as if Renton's role in the overall objectives of the two factions is far greater than just "tagging along for the ride." I have a feeling that we may see some more of Anemone trying to acquire Renton, but ofcourse, like my last thought, this is basically just speculation.

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Of course Renton has to mean something more than a tag-along to the Gekko and Holland. If you remember, Holland and his team were in the military. Also, Renton's father was in the military. Also, Renton's grandfather got pissed when Holland came. There's obviously something special about Renton that Holland wants because of his connection to Renton's father. Now, there's obviously something special about Eureka and her conenction to Anemone. They both have to do with the military, or in Eureka's case, she did. Eureka constantly says how the Nirvash is different with Renton and his Amita Drive around. Maybe the same would happen for Anemone and her LFO if she had Renton and the Amita Drive around.

Of course, all of that was just me thinking logically based off of the given information for the first time in my life, so tell me how you think about it.

 

[Anime Wench]

This is an anime that I am really into. I just received Volume 1 and have Volume 2 on the way. I have been watching this faithfully on Adult Swim from the very beginning. I'm still trying to sort out the reason why I like this anime so much.

My favorite characters are Holland, Renton and Eureka. My least favorite so far is Talho. I don't know why, but so many of the more prominent females in anime are portrayed as bossy and overbearing. This is true of several different anime I can think of... Karou in Rurouni Kenshin, ChiChi and Bulma in Dragon Ball Z, Fuu in Samurai Champloo, Kagome in Inuyasha, etc. Perhaps they think these qualities signify a female as being strong.

Anyway, despite the fact that Eureka is somewhat strange (you will find out why later), she is quite courageous in the Nirvash and without being mouthy or overbearing which I find quite refreshing. I find Renton to be quite comical. He is a bit over the top at times, but a lot of the things that make him funny are because of his innocense and naivete. Holland is, well, just plain cool or as Eureka told Renton, mysterious and that she never knows what he is going to do.

So far, I have not been disappointed in this series and if it stays as good as it is now through the end, I'm not sure 50 episodes will be enough for me, but I guess it won't matter because that is all there is.

 

[SharinganEyes92]

Okay, I just bought the Eureka 7 special edition box (haven't watched it yet, I'm about to). I have to ask though, at Best Buy, the first DVD is 16.99 but the second DVD is 31.99... Why? Possibly just a mistake because I can't remember ever seeing Best Buy sell DVDs at that price.

I saw the same thing at Best Buy two days ago. I was thinking about how the first DVD had a reasonable price, but the second one cost more than what I had on me. Also, the box set was $40. And that's just for the first DVD, first manga volume, a soundtrack (I think), and a t-shirt. That's alot of money.

 

[blackness]

What do you think about Eureka 7? I think it's awesome. It always keeps me on my tip toes with suspense. My favorite character is Holand. He's my favorite because he's funny, wise, mysterious, romantic, and unpredictable. My favorite thing about him is that he's got a sense of humor. And, to me, it's freakin' hilarious that

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he wears nothing but boxers aboard the Geko State

. It's not unusual to me, but I find it funny.

 

[PantsGoblin]

(what's with the pronunciation of Eureka, anyway?)

Guess they either goofed up while trying to pronouce "Eureka" or decided it would be cooler to pronounce it by the exact romanization to Japanese. To really sound like the 'real' way to pronouce "Eureka," it would have to be romanized as "Yuurika." Which doesn't seem like it would be "Eureka" at first glance.

Guess you guys are finished talking about it but... I went to Tomoki Kyoda's (director of Eureka 7) panel at AX and he said it was pronounced "You-wreck-a" not "You-reek-a". It was because some magazine in Japan already had "eureka" pronounced the other way and he didn't want them to get confused. I don't know if that's what they did in the show since I haven't seen it.

I'm actually kind of wanting to see this show now. I'm not really a big mecha fan though, do you think I would like it? I did like Full Metal Panic! though.

 

[omnistry]

The show is a joy to watch. Big ups to the creator for the music references; and bonus points for naming the main character after everyone's favorite heroin addict from "Trainspotting".

 

[v1cious]

the show is doing horrible on Adult swim... and i mean REALLY horrible.

Really how do you know, did you find out its ratings? I'd be interested in a link to em if you could. It just surprises me thats all.

Plus it sucks that all the new anime is on saturdays, really doesn't give them a fair chance does it.

not sure of the exact number, but this week was below 175,000
http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?t=167557

starting this week, they're pushing it to the end of the lineup. i'm starting to think they may not pick up more episodes.

 

[TranceLimit174]

I've been trying to get into the show but I'm having a hard time doing so. We're 7 episodes in (haven't watched ep. 7 yet), and so far I have no idea where it's going. Save for maybe episode one each episode has virtually been the same and follows a basic formula. By this point I would think I would like to know where everyone is going. Usually characters have some sort of destination or overall goal. The Gekkostate crew, well, they just sort of cruise around until they get a chance to ride the waves. Also, given the fact that this is supposed to be a mecha show there's very little mecha involved (maybe that's why it's popular). Anyway I know the military has something up their sleeves to obtain the Nirvash, but the moments that appear to be what move the overall story along seem so separated from everything else that it's difficult for me to get an idea of what will happen. Then again, maybe there's something I completely missed.

 

[v1cious]

Also, which anime will take the baton from InuYasha when it ends its debut run within the next twelve months? It may still air during the weeknight time slots, but that still leaves Saturday night open.

I thought it was obvious that they're expecting Bleach to replace Inuyasha

Bleach is airing in september, so not really.

as i've said before on another board, the problem is that they don't have enough on saturday to keep people interested in watching. i mean they have like one new show, and the rest of the block is reruns. i mean what's the point of having new Inuyasha on tuesdays? where is the benefit in this? they did the same thing with Samurai Champloo also when it was on.

 

[the Rancorous]

Last night's episode of E7 was the first one which reminded me of NGE. Renton was

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tripping out

and each scene kept screaming WTF in my mind. Even though Renton tends to whine, it's nowhere near the whining done by Shinji Ikari.

E7 stands on its own, but to me last night's episode just felt like something from the later episodes of NGE.

It reminded me of NGE as well, but only through Renton, the rest

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of that trippy dream sequence was pretty crazy

and Anemone is really starting to intrigue me and many ways, as well as Eureka and Renton's true roles in this series.

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It seemed to me like Anemone was trying to claim Renton and bring him along with her. "I only came here because you called me."

But Anemone is turning out to be pretty creepy.

 

[conundrum]

(what's with the pronunciation of Eureka, anyway?)

Guess they either goofed up while trying to pronouce "Eureka" or decided it would be cooler to pronounce it by the exact romanization to Japanese. To really sound like the 'real' way to pronouce "Eureka," it would have to be romanized as "Yuurika." Which doesn't seem like it would be "Eureka" at first glance.

Guess you guys are finished talking about it but... I went to Tomoki Kyoda's (director of Eureka 7) panel at AX and he said it was pronounced "You-wreck-a" not "You-reek-a". It was because some magazine in Japan already had "eureka" pronounced the other way and he didn't want them to get confused. I don't know if that's what they did in the show since I haven't seen it.

I'm actually kind of wanting to see this show now. I'm not really a big mecha fan though, do you think I would like it? I did like Full Metal Panic! though.

I think you'll probably like it, I've talked to quite a few people who aren't big fans of the mecha genre that have come to love this series. The music is great, the characters are quirky & unique, the animation is beautiful and it has a very interesting story, definitely worth checking out.

 

[Dargonxtc]

Thanks v1cious,

Man this just confirms what I have been thinking for a long time. That the people at [as] have something against anime, at least the majority of them anyway. I mean putting all your new anime on saturdays, bad idea.

I guess you could counter with,"but Naruto is doing really good". But it is on earlier and aimed at a different age group. since it comes on shortly after it gets dark all the kids who want to watch it are most likely just getting home. The age group they are going for with E7 is out getting drunk or trying to get laid, probably both, on saturdays. Saturdays are prime time for that activity. I have had my suspicions ever since they made sunday only comedy, as sunday ratings has always been a strong day. Making this day void of anime is an assault on it.

Now when they say they don't want anime they can always point to its low ratings and say "I'm not buying that, the ratings suck", all while smiling to your face, even though it was there plan all along to set it up for failure. :evil: @_@

 

[Pleroma]

I hear this complaint a lot and francly I don't understand it. Why would anyone complain about not knowing the full story behind things in a character centric tale? Eureka 7 follows Renton almost exclusively, we as an audience are not supposed to know much more than he does or the whole discovery phase of the story would be essentially invalidated.

Renton has goten swept into this adventure with a wild bunch of rebels that he knows very little about so it only makes sense that the audience know little as well. You know all will be revealed eventually so what's the rush?

As far as the large cast I would say this one of the shows and all of BONES's works biggest strenghts. Even when there is little plot-related activity going on, just watching the various characters interact is a pleasure in itself because they are believable and interesting without stealing the spotlight.

Its easy to say "there is no plot" but the fact is that just like a good book or movies EVERYTHING is the plot. There may be minor and major threads but ultimately everything is there for a reason and it serves the impact of the work. A story where any characters or narrative threads are just the inconsequential entourage for a "main plot" is a failed work.

 

[omnistry]

The show is a joy to watch. Big ups to the creator for the music references; and bonus points for naming the main character after everyone's favorite heroin addict from "Trainspotting".

 

[PantsGoblin]

Also, the box set was $40. And that's just for the first DVD, first manga volume, a soundtrack (I think), and a t-shirt. That's alot of money.

MSRB is $60 so 40 isn't that bad. For all of the extra stuff that came with it, I thought it was a pretty good deal.

Anyway, I just finished watching it. It was good, nothing amazing yet. I heard it doesn't pick up til around episode 9 so I'm waiting for that (would be the next DVD, I'll have to get it from somewhere other then Best Buy though).

Also, Eureka must be some kind of clone of Lala-Ru from Now and Then, Here and There. Same personality, about the same body type, almost the same color hair, and the same seiyuu. It's kind of funny though, she's part of the reason I bought this anime believe it or not. I found her character design and name (don't ask) to be extremely attractive. In fact, I like her so much I might make her my next avatar. And I almost never go for her type of personality, so it's wierd.

 

[conundrum]

Well, it is a 50-episode series instead of a 26-episode one, so you can't expect too much for answers less than a third of the way through.

That being said, I must agree that they are playing their cards too close to their chests. Being too vague and secretive for too long can be a detriment to a series (see RahXephon), even a longer one.

And does anyone else have the impression that they don't really have 50 episodes of story here and are trying to stretch things out to compensate?

I think it's being handled quite nicely, the story is about Renton growing up and everything is being revealed in a lifelike manner. In the beginning we're all very ignorant of the world around us, but as we grow up we begin to make sense of our environment.

Eureka 7 has been dropping big hints as to what is going on it's world, from Eureka's dark past to the Coralian cloud and Stoner's cryptic remarks. If one pieces together all the information that's been given so far, one can make a reasonably good guess as to where the story is heading.

 

[v1cious]

yea the Sages pretty much run everything from behind the scenes. that's all i wil say at this point.

 

[TranceLimit174]

Do TiVo, VCR, and DVR recordings get factored into the ratings at all? If not then it may be possible that there more people watching than the ratings indicate. But yeah, I always thought Saturday was a bad day to premire new episodes of anything. As people of said a lot of people are out doing other things. Also a lot of fans who would be watching are probably working as well. Saturday is basically the social day of the week, not chill out in front of the tube day. Also cons occur rather frequently, so I'm sure many potential viewers are enjoying the con scene rather than sitting in their hotel rooms and watching. Then again maybe AS assumes anime fans don't have a life. Honestly though I don't think AS really has something against anime fans. I think it was on this forum but I believe it was stated that one of the people in charge of programming (probably just the anime programming) is a fan. Shows like Family Guy and their other comedy staples are going to get more ratings than anime period simply because they have a much broader appeal. So naturally they get the more ideal timeslots. I think what it is is that AS knows that anime fans tend to be pretty dedicated, so if a show comes on that they enjoy then they will find some way to watch whereas people won't go out of their way to catch that Family Guy rerun. Also, I think another reason may be that a lot of fans probably buy the DVDs before the show starts to air on AS. These fans already have the DVD, and have probably watched it already (probably more than once) so why would they watch the same episode with commercials once a week (unless it's one of those Saturdays when nothing's going on and they just decide to turn on AS and the show happens to be on)? I don't think many people think "I need to tune in regardless of whether or not I've seen the show to help the ratings." It's both the whole "my vote doesn't count" mentality and I believe I read that only a certain number of homes are outfitted with cable boxes that actually report on what's being watched. Either way, anime would probably fair better if it was on during the week (an extra half hour wouldn't kill the network, just one premire an evening) but I don't think anime airs on Saturdays simply because AS wants to secretly oust it out of their programming.

 

[x_silversurfer]

Without voicing an Essay of an oppinion, I'd like to say that I am quite fond of E7. I was intrigued with it and started watching a lot of it. I admit, at times I felt like It wasn't all that I had hoped but the show quickly changed my mind and I'm back into it.
I agree with the topic creator, I liked Holland a lot in the first couple episodes, however,

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later in the show I began to hate him because he was being a (for lack of a better term) not-so-nice-person to Renton. I suppose this is because of the "newfound understanding" that Renton aquires after well, a lot happens till his eventual leaving of the Gekko-Go.

I believe the writers did a great job bacause they make you feel what the characters are feeling. It really makes for a great show, though I would have prefered the episodes to be a little longer as most are not great stand-alone. Plus we all know how long a week can be when we are waiting for one of those "pivital episodes."

Writing (story): 3.5 / 5
Characters (development): 5 / 5
Animation/Art: 4.5 / 5 (what's with the pink explosions?!?)
Overall: 4.5 / 5