Walmart Flailing, Plans to buy smaller retailers

On 3/12/2011 1:12 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

Actually no.


Ever shop at Costco? Do you go there because you pay more? Costco pays
their employees significantly more than walmart and also has a decent
benefit package that people can actually join.



Of course not, why are you bringing that in? People who don't want to
work has always been an issue aside from anything else. We are talking
about folks who say have a moderate skill set and want to be productive.
Not everyone can have a doctorate.


That tends to be abused. We have the same problem here with some
government employees. Last one I recall was some school superintendent
who got an extra check for $300,000 on retirement because he had "saved
up" his 25 years of sick days. There is nothing like that in the public
sector.

Some companies simply say "if you are sick we cover it" and don't define
"you have 10 sick days".
 
"George" wrote

Why exclude hundreds or thousand of employers and tens of thousands of
employees that get the same wage and benefits as WalMart? Everyone like to
rip into WalMart, but forgets about the other stores doing the same thing
and treating their employees in the same manner. If both stores are doing
the same thing they are equally bad/good. Let's be fair and not caught up
in the WalMart diatribe for the sake of bashing WalMart. Let's correct all
of the equal problems.



I shop at BJ's and it is similar to Costco. Most of the people working there
differ from most of the employees at Wal Mart. Do you have the wage scale
for the same job description? At Costco, At least half of the people
stocking shelves are trained to operate fork lift trucks, only one or two at
WalMart needs that skill. I do know that WM pays those people more than the
ones putting paper towels on the shelves, but I don't know how much. If you
know the comparative wage, we can discuss. otherwise, it is somewhat an
apples/oranges to lump both stores together. The Costco store is a
different model than the WM/Family Dollar/K Mart model where wages ten to be
very low





I'm bringing it in because if fits. You rightly point out that
manufacturing jobs are leaving, along with the good paychecks they provide.
A certain skill level is needed for those jobs. If that skilled machinist
and a HS dropout are both hired at a retail store, should they both be paid
the same? Should one get a higher pay scale because he has more skill, even
though they won't be used? The dropout may be just as good at stocking
shelves and mopping the floor so he should be paid the same for doing the
same job. What should that wage be? Minimal wage of about $8 or a livable
wage of double that? If people are lined up to take that job for $8, there
is little incentive to pay more.





Pensions for some states workers is based on the last three years of wages,
not the pay scale of the job description for a normal workweek. They load
up on overtime the last few years and get pensions higher than the normal
wage. State Police in CT are good for that. Leave the job in your 50's with
a pension of $80k a year or more.


That may work in some venues, but in many, it would be severely abused with
no limits.
 
On Mar 12, 10:27?am, George wrote:


That's been my complaint about these corporations for a while now.
While government at every level is cutting back "because the money
just isn't there," it suddenly IS there if you write the right people
a few really big checks.
 
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George wrote:

Amen. Term limits for all could fix a lot of problems created by politicians
beholden to those who support their existence, and we might actually get
people in office who cast votes and take positions based on the right thing
to do, not how it affects their political stature. Not to mention it would
eliminate more than a few seniile old coots from Congress.
 
On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 11:16:47 -0400, "Ed Pawlowski"
wrote:


The only one I know of that honors unlimited sick time is ones mommy.
I see no point is discussing Walmart with George, he's obviously
biased because he applied for jobs there but was turned down each and
every time because he qualified for none or was fired for cause...
George thinks his skill is commisserate with a salary of over
$100,000/yr because he's an engineer, a Shithouse Engineer/toilet
janitor... who isn't up to Walmart's standards.

I know Walmart employees, they're my neighbors, they love working
there, and they have told me that Walmart beats their competition in
all areas including pay scale and bennies. And like McDonalds etal.
Walmart is a major employer of the handicapped and learning
disabled... many thousands of very hard working people who wouldn't be
self sufficient otherwise... when Walmart receives tax abatements in a
community far more dollars are saved because Walmart relieves the
community from supporting those that couldnt be employed otherwise and
gives them priceless self esteem. The tax abatement is how a
community encourages businesses like Walmart to become a part of that
community, but these businesses give back far more in dollars and in
many other ways, they more than make up for the tax dollars. Like I
said previously, George is a moron who couldn't operate a lemonade
stand, he hasn't the intellect.

There is always good reason why folks are anti Walmart, they or a
family member was fired for stealing or doing drugs.

Last night I accompanied a neighbor to the ER, she fell traversing her
basement stairs, struck her forehead, and was bleeding profusely. I
got her to the ER in less than half the time had she dialed 911. They
cleaned her up, did a CT scan, put in five stitches to close the nasty
cut, and kept her until past midnight for observation. This is a
major Albany hospital, with a brand new ER larger and better equipt
than most community hospitals. I noticed a large bronze plaque on the
wall "This Area Donated By Walmart". I didn't get home until past 2
AM. I had forgotten about that plaque until reading George's moronic
post... what a shallow little nothing he is.

I shopped at Walmart yesterday, after barely putting my groceries away
I drove back up there. I'm very glad there's a Walmart where I live.
 
On 2011-03-14, Nunya Bidnits wrote:

In your dreams. CA has had term limits for decades and it hasn't
helped a damn thing. The place is in shambles. One major flaw to the
concept is, now these slimey pols must make hay in one or two terms
instead of over the long haul. Makes 'em twice as greedy and four
times as slimey. Also, you toss the good with the bad.

nb
 
On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 22:51:15 -0400, "Ed Pawlowski"
wrote:


Change that to EDUCATED shoppers... only imbeciles would rather pay
more. The name brand products Walmart sells are exactly the same as
those sold everywhere else, were they changed in some way Walmart
would be in court for fraud and conspiracy. The products under the
Walmart brand can be different but so far all of those I've tried are
as good or better and cost a whole lot less... be well assured that
the Walmart brand tiny jelly beans I buy are Jelly Belly, at less than
half price. With durable goods such as electronics Walmart does carry
models with features sold nowhere else, but the model numbers are
different and the differences are clearly advertised... all major
retailers do exactly the same and if anything Walmart is more honest
about it. When I purchased a Vizio HDTV the 26" one cost more than
$100 less at Walmart than everywhere else. When I got to the store
there was a huge sign and teh sales person explained severla times
that it had no picture in picture feature, otherwise exactly the same.
When I got home and called my cable company about setting it up they
told me to contact Vizio for the code assigned to that serial number
so the tech could set it up properly, I asked if it was true about it
not having PIP and was informed that after much research hardly anyone
uses the PIP feature and since Walmart does such high volume they
manufactured a new model just for them. I was very happy to have
saved like $120 on a TV only because it didn't have a feature I know
that I would never use. Vizio makes a fantastic TV. The cable tech
that arrived to set mine up said he bought the same one.
 
On Mar 12, 10:27?am, George wrote:

You tend to be little out of touch with the times. Are you
proud that this is the first time in the history of the US that
children are not better educated than their parents?
 
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I_am_Tosk wrote:


Oh please, what utter hogwash. The two aren't even in the same solar system,
much less relative in terms of economic impact. WallyWarts has nothing
whatsoever to do with unions and if you're blaming unions for their
predatory, exploitative, unAmerican tactics and participation in the
decimation of American manufacturing, then you're apparently not in this
solar system yourself. You should learn just how little work is done by
unions in the US these days. Whether you agree with what unions have done in
this country or not, justifying the problems created by WeaselMart by
blaming the unions is just idiotic.
 
"Nunya Bidnits" wrote
We have term limits. It is called "voting". Unfortunately, too many people
have no idea how to use it properly. Perhaps some of the electorate should
be replaced.
 
"George" wrote

That maybe true of Costco, but what about other stores? I know a local lady
cashier that left one store here to go to WalMart for better wages. WM may
be the biggest, but others certainly don't pay any better. What do you
think a fair wage is for a cashier? $8? $15? Should they get full
medical insurance? I'd like to see what you'd pay for various retail jobs.
 
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Ed Pawlowski wrote:
What do you think a fair wage is for a cashier? $8?

There is a huge flaw in the above question IMO. I think it bears out the
cynical nature of the accepted status quo which ties health insurance and
reasonable timely care to jobs. There's no moral or ethical justification
for the notion that a person's occupation should dictate whether they are
able to access competent health care. A ditch digger, an unemployed person,
and a CEO should all be able to receive appropriate care without delay when
needed because no one person's health is more valuable than another's by
virtue of their job.

MartyB
 
On Mar 14, 1:53?pm, "Nunya Bidnits" wrote:

Term limits have been a disaster in Michigan. Nobody in Lansing
knows how to work together to make government happen. They sit
on their thumbs blaming the other party for everything, including
the Black Death and the San Franciso earthquake of 1906, or
else they flail around fixing things that aren't broken, and ignoring
things that need to be fixed.

Cindy Hamilton
 
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