Villain Type You Hate More: Ultra-Serious or Comedy Baffoon

Comparing Jafar to the Joker is like comparing apples and steam engines. Both are comedic and menacing but with entirely different purposes behind them, and the stories they are in.

Joker is a menacing and comedic villain in an action drama. As such he manages to be a dramatic character also.

Jafar is a menacing and comedic villain in a comedy.
 
But nothing out and out comic it seems?

Oh well, more 1980s Shredder, Negaduck, Megavolt, Quackerjack, Hades, Gantu, Plankton, Shere Khan, Don Kanarge, Mr. Crocker, Beagle Boys, Hopper, Yzma, Kronk, Mandark, Red Guy, Montana Max, Mojo Jojo, Fuzzy Lumpkins, Bushroot, Steelbeak, Krang, Rocksteady and Bebop for the rest of us.
 
I'm not really comparing either of them, just that a Jafar/Joker comparison makes more sense than a comparison between Jafar/Xanatos. Just providing more of an example really.
 
Wait a minute, I do like Negaduck, Red Guy and Montana Max actually. Along with Jack Spicer. The thing is, they're actually funny to me.
 
I meant Negaduck. But the thing is, those guys were actually funny to me and they're weren't trying too hard to be taken seriously. That's the difference, the Disney villains like Scar, Hades, etc. were all trying too hard to be taken seriously even as a comedic villain. And since when does The Red Guy and Montana Max count as villains? They're just losers with no lives and they only purpose they have is to just annoy alot of people and being a jerk to them.
 
How are The Red Guy and Montana Max villains, you ask?

First off, lets remember that The Red Guy is supposed to be the devil. He's only addressed as the devil in the Cow and Chicken pilot but that's basically who he's supposed to be throughout the series. In fact, in his first appearance he tempts Chicken down to hell by offering him a cigarette and then proceeds to torture Chicken while he's got him down there. He's not always cast in the role of the villain but nine times out of ten that who he ends up playing. He's the source of most of the main character's aggravation anyway.

And I don't see how Montana Max isn't a villain. He's the only main character who basically fits the villainous mold. They even cast him as a hunter with a shotgun in one cartoon. Look how nasty and manipulative he is in the Christmas episode. He's a villain.
 
Actually, I think a better example would be to compare Jafar to Shredder in the 1987 Ninja Turtles cartoon. Or maybe that would just be insulting to Jafar. ( ;
 
I think Shredder should be cut some slack. I mean he had to raise two dimwitted mutants while in a (platonic) relationship with a talking brain in a body. This dialogue sums up what I mean by that:

"How come when they mess up, they're my mutants, but when they succeed, they're my mutants"?
 
How is Waspinator not an out and out comedic villain?

And you can have a serious dramatic villain threat in a comedy I think. Jaffar was defeated by his Greed, and Aladdin being clever. It might be the oldest trick in the book... but it was still credible I felt. And of course as Greg mentioned, Maleficent.

Other than that, though. Most disney endings are kinda crappy. They're all way too sudden, the bad guy dies, and then the it starts raining and all his evil is washed away somehow. They can build up all this tension with the villain, and they can have him commit all these horrible clever villainous acts, but they can't be killed in brutal ways, and they can't have intense fight scenes with the hero. (Well they can, but only to a point). Which makes them less credible as villains because all their villainy ends up coming across as bravado.
 
True. I still like both villains. I was only trying to mention what would top Xanatos' position. I mean, being a President means you can get away with anything, like starting a war. Although the downside is the election day.
 
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