Unsure about keeping my Nexus One..

Sophia J

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As some of you may have read, I was shopping around for my first Android phone recently. I'm with AT&T and I didn't really want to deal with switching providers, so my only option was the $529 Nexus One. I've had it for about a week and here's my thoughts.

First off, I am totally sold on the Android platform. It seems like it was made for people who liked the iPhone OS style but not the Nazi-esque rules set by Apple. The apps are quite nice and the touchscreen keyboard is something I have gotten used to and can easily live with it (unlike some people who demand a hard keyboard and are forced to buy the Moto Droid.)

Having said that, I do have a number of concerns, which I would normally just tolerate, but given that I threw down $529 for this phone and I have been hit with a number of financial blows recently (such as my dental insurance company not covering my wife's $2,400 dental work) these issues start to nag at me like a baby screaming into a megaphone.

One big concern I have is with the phone's cell reception. I have read that this phone has numerous issues with this, but I assumed that it was more of a result of being on T-Mobile. It appears that AT&T isn't much different, as I constantly see 0 - 2 bars in the areas that I frequent most. Also, 3g download speeds seem very inconsistent, with download speeds ranging from 297 to 1569 kbps. Also, on more than 1 occasion, the download speed has gone down to dial-up speeds and I had to jump on to the WiFi (which I also have issues about.) Part of my reasoning for getting the N1 and dishing out that money was that I was familiar with AT&T's coverage in my area and I thought it was good based on my experiences with my Moto Q9h. I preferred that over taking my chances with Verizon or Sprint and having to go through the hassle of signing up, porting numbers, then the potential hassle of maybe having to go back to AT&T, etc. If the phone has connectivity issues with AT&T, then I feel I would be better served just going with the Incredible on Verizon or the EVO on Sprint. These phones apparently don't have the same issues the N1 has maintaining a good signal with their networks. Is there any way to resolve the N1's signal issues, even via rooting? (more on rooting later.)

The WiFi settings also are rather finicky. Maybe I'm just doing something wrong, but quite often the phone has had issues reconnecting to a wireless network when it comes out of sleep. I often have to manually go to the WiFi settings and tell it to reconnect there, as opposed to it just doing it automatically.

There have been a number of times where the screen or soft keys are unresponsive for a few seconds. I don't know if the phone is just "loading" or whatever, but it's happened enough for it to become a noticeable nuisance.

I've found the touch screen to be quite finicky when it comes to games, or rather, games that require an on-screen d-pad and buttons. I don't know if this was a Nesoid exclusive thing, but as I mentioned in other threads, I often can't use multiple presses at the same time, so in Super Mario Bros I can't move forward, run, and jump at the same time. I don't know if this is an N1 issue or an HTC issue or a multitouch issue in general.

I'm also concerned about rooting. I realize that another perk of the N1 is that it is easy to root and has a large number of custom roms available, but I am also aware of the fact that this voids your warranty, and that your phone is basically given a Scarlet Letter that will alert any warranty repair person as soon as they turn on the phone. But then what happens if I have a legitimate issue with this phone? Let's say the menu button stops working. Obviously HTC won't repair it for free, but would they repair it at all? And if so, would it be like $50 to repair, or would it be almost the same price as getting a whole new phone? Has anyone here had issues with their N1's malfunctioning? I'm assuming if this same scenario happened with say, an Incredible, that I would only have to pay what I paid for the phone originally. Am I wrong about that? Again, this would be more of a tolerable issue if I was only putting $200 at risk for rooting as opposed to $529 (or whatever the N1 ends up costing.)

These issues, along with the very real possibility that the N1 could be available in the near future at retail channels at lower prices have me strongly considering returning the phone and just paying the $45 restocking fee as I venture out to Sprint and Verizon and try out their phones on their services, or potentially sit and pray that AT&T delivers us an Android phone that's worth 2 sh*ts. I'm not optimistic about waiting, considering AT&T's history of locking down Android phones, and that their upcoming phones appear to be entry to mid-grade. I need a high powered machine that will not be obsolete in a year, like a Droid or 1ghz phone.

I know it must seem that I'm just ragging on the N1, but for all these issues I mentioned, I still like the phone and could see myself keeping it. Again though, my standards are higher at $529 than they are at $200. This post is really meant to say, "Convince me to keep my N1," because if I really didn't want to keep it I would not have bothered making this long post voicing all these concerns. I would have just sent it back and asked about Verizon VS Sprint (which may be my next big post.)

If you've read this far you deserve a medal, so draw one and tape it to your shirt.
 
dvandam the Nexus one is the right choice for you now,I'm also using AT&T network,also If you like to wait many good Android devices come in June & July to AT&T from Samsung,Dell,HTC & Motorola
 
I'm on Verizon in Charlotte, NC.
Signal issue you talk about with bars has not been an issue at all for me. Not 1 dropped call or problems being 100 percent clear on phone calls. I took my phone 4 wheeling and in the middle of a 30 acre park I had full coverage in podunk nowheresville south carolina. Signal strength in office at the moment -73dBm which is good.

The Droid Incredible has a much more advanced touch screen and has no issues with responsiveness when it comes to the keys. I'd say just the opposite of what you are running into. It's amazing.

I don't have any problems with the wifi. I have a button as part of the htc sense that I can touch to turn it on. I have never had to do anything but press the button and enter my info 1 time when I bought the phone to be on my wireless network.

The phone has not been rooted yet but I seem to have everything I need.

coverage is a tricky thing. I've been with Verizon forever. I will likely stay with Verizon. I think I have had 1 dropped call in like 10 years. It just doesn't happen at all to me.

Now my only 2 issues:
Bluetooth doesn't support everything like the nexus does yet. It's probably a 1.5 android version bluetooth on my phone. It won't work with HID profiles or SPP profile bluetooth types. -- this will be fixed at some point I am sure.

Phone comes with cityid. It's a lame program that you can't uninstall .. (yet) Once the trial is over it goes away but I want it off my phone completely.

I hope in looking for a solution you get the information you need.
 
I have the N1 on Tmo, and the only issue that I have that you mention is the muti-touch. I don't believe the API is mature enough to do more than 2 touches at a time yet, and I believe the screens hardware is limited to the amount of touches it can process at one time.

However, I don't think you should keep it. Instead, you should send it to me...for free.
 
I've had 3 Nexus Ones on T-Mobile, only 1 out of the 3 had connectivity issues. With that I can concur that there are some N1s that have some type of hardware issue. As for the screen, at times the screen would go nuts and totally misinterprete my inputs. Solved that by locking then unlocking the screen. I believe that the N1 shares its fair share of issues but IMHO, its the best Android device available on any carrier at this moment. And out of the phones I've owned, its the best;]
 
I have a somewhat complete list of all my previous phones on my blog, yousaidwhat.net
I get slightly depressed looking at it lol.
*Apologies for the slight thread jacking*
 
The Nexus One is a pretty sweet phone, it is unfortunately still pretty early on its life cycle so it is bound to have some problems, especially if you have one of the very early models.

There are some amazing Android based phones coming out soon though (including the Dell Streak) so I guess it depends on how easy it is for you to get out of your contract, because in a couple of months it may well be worth you changing if your having trouble with your handset.

I wouldnt do it at the moment but I would start looking into my options.
 
I have a Nexus one and its about a week old. I've not experienced the connectivity issue (yet) that you speak of. I do also have the AT&T flavor of the N1.

Wifi performance and stability has been excellent, no different then any other wireless device.

I think rooting it is one prime reason why I got the nexus. I could have opted for the Incredible but to date its not rootable. Plus we Nexus owners will get Froyo before anyone else.

If you're more concerned about the warranty, don't care about getting Froyo before anyone else, are plagued with connectivity issues. I'd first call the support line to see what they can do and/or return it.

the bottom line, while i think its an awesome phone, it may not be a great fit for your needs.
 
I'm a little hesitant about the Dell Streak. The reported specs on it are rather promising (it's basically an AT&T EVO) but the OS is going to be modified by a company that, as far as I know, doesn't have a lot of experience with Android (Dell) and it's going to be on a carrier that has a history of locking down their Android phones...
 
Can anyone touch upon my rooting questions and the costs involved in repairing a phone that has a voided warranty? I'm not just referring to the N1, but that phone and others in general.
 
The G1, MT3G, Droid and maybe a few others can be unrooted to presevere your warranty. The N1 you have to unlock the bootloader, which voids your warranty, and every time you turn it on you see a padlock at the bottom, unlocked.
 
Wait, so some phones can be rooted but "unrooted" like un-jailbreaking an iPhone, meaning it's not easily detectable and leaves you open to warranty coverage?
 
Dell is offering the device also unlock soon and they tell in the press conferencein UK that they are planning an 2.2 update in august or sept.
 
YEs you can unroot some. The G1 for sure, I think the MT3G because it's basically a G1 without a keyboard and I heard the Droid can be unrooted.
http://code.google.com/p/android-roms/wiki/Unroot
http://theunlockr.com/2009/08/22/how-to-unroot-your-mytouch-3g/
http://rootyourdroid.info/guides/unroot-back-to-stock/
There may be more but for now the N1 can't be unrooted.
 
Just to be clear, unlocking the bootloader and rooting are two different things, correct? You need to unlock the bootloader in order to root the N1 if my understanding is correct, which is where the problem lies since your phone is basically "branded" with that unlock icon, meaning that even if you unroot the N1 (which I have read CAN be done) it's made moot by the incredibly obvious unlocked padlock at boot up. It seems to me that if you can root a phone (and the bootloader isn't involved) you'd have to be able to unroot it, no?
 
Yes, once you unlock the bootloader your warranty is gone. In order to root the phone that is what you need to do. Unlocking the bootloader and rooting are two different things.
 
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