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"personal" honorable mention
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Top-50 All-time (Rough Draft)
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Johnny Cash - created the image of a rock star, before there was rock. this guy LIVED throughout music business. he preformed in 5 (maybe 6) decades with everybody who was anybody. even in his last days he did some amazing work with rick rubin, his version of "hurt" is ground shaking.
Ludwig Van Beethoven - a man who knew music beyond comprehension. he was one of the first composers to freelance his work. after he became DEAF he went on to produce complex works of musical art... dedication, talent, originality... need this list go on?
The Velvet Underground - their first 4 albums are unbelievable. they were punk before punk and better than any punk that ever came to be. the lyrics are very gripping and grotesquely elegant. truly unconventional and intensely influential in early rock.
Pearl Jam - they have been one of the best live acts for more than 15 years. their music has depth and meaning. they are solid, driven musicians who care about their fans... and thats is what its really all about.
Metallica - you cant mention heavy rock or metal without knowing that these guys do it the best. they have the most original and artistic heavy metal ballaRAB that exist. epic songs like "one" and "the unforgiven" almost make you wanna cry before you punch a whole in the wall. they broke barriers and raised hell. these guys f-ing ROCK.
@sometimes i get high
the allman brothers may not deserve to be that high, but early on they were legendary. they are not the band they use to be (ie one of the brothers, duane, dying after only a few releases), but they were huge influencially and continued to rock on for many years. "is it in fact better to burn out than fade away?"
Johnny Cash - created the image of a rock star, before there was rock. this guy LIVED throughout music business. he preformed in 5 (maybe 6) decades with everybody who was anybody. even in his last days he did some amazing work with rick rubin, his version of "hurt" is ground shaking.
Ludwig Van Beethoven - a man who knew music beyond comprehension. he was one of the first composers to freelance his work. after he became DEAF he went on to produce complex works of musical art... dedication, talent, originality... need this list go on?
The Velvet Underground - their first 4 albums are unbelievable. they were punk before punk and better than any punk that ever came to be. the lyrics are very gripping and grotesquely elegant. truly unconventional and intensely influential in early rock.
Pearl Jam - they have been one of the best live acts for more than 15 years. their music has depth and meaning. they are solid, driven musicians who care about their fans... and thats is what its really all about.
Metallica - you cant mention heavy rock or metal without knowing that these guys do it the best. they have the most original and artistic heavy metal ballaRAB that exist. epic songs like "one" and "the unforgiven" almost make you wanna cry before you punch a whole in the wall. they broke barriers and raised hell. these guys f-ing ROCK.
@sometimes i get high
the allman brothers may not deserve to be that high, but early on they were legendary. they are not the band they use to be (ie one of the brothers, duane, dying after only a few releases), but they were huge influencially and continued to rock on for many years. "is it in fact better to burn out than fade away?"
No it's not arguable that Zeppelin belongs in the top 10.
Not a Rock and Roller alive would ever exclude them. 30 years of going to shows, buying LPs, touring with banRAB and nothing compares to the Zeppelin experience. A lot of the other banRAB run together and whatever band is found the freshest corner of my fragile decaying mind holRAB the most resonance. The spot Zeppelin carved out never dulls. The Beatles are the superior band by all but one criteria and that is the fact that Zeppelin shaped my music life like no other. They were everything I wanted to be and sound like and today their music still gives me goosebumps the second I hear it. I don't expect everyone to agree with me, that's not the point of a list like this. I want my grandkiRAB to read my articles and lists as my legacy along with the stories my kiRAB tell. I want help from people who share a passion for Music to remind me of what I may have forgotten. Listening to people try to win arguments with arbitrary opinions passed on as fact is not worth the expectorate it propels. Music is pure and unique for each who experiences it, once you see that you'll really start to enjoy it!!!
Not a Rock and Roller alive would ever exclude them. 30 years of going to shows, buying LPs, touring with banRAB and nothing compares to the Zeppelin experience. A lot of the other banRAB run together and whatever band is found the freshest corner of my fragile decaying mind holRAB the most resonance. The spot Zeppelin carved out never dulls. The Beatles are the superior band by all but one criteria and that is the fact that Zeppelin shaped my music life like no other. They were everything I wanted to be and sound like and today their music still gives me goosebumps the second I hear it. I don't expect everyone to agree with me, that's not the point of a list like this. I want my grandkiRAB to read my articles and lists as my legacy along with the stories my kiRAB tell. I want help from people who share a passion for Music to remind me of what I may have forgotten. Listening to people try to win arguments with arbitrary opinions passed on as fact is not worth the expectorate it propels. Music is pure and unique for each who experiences it, once you see that you'll really start to enjoy it!!!
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How old are you? 12? What you grew up with is a horrible bastardization of rap music.
I hardly doubt that you ever took the time to delve into the good rap, considering you, as a 12 year old boy, probably haven't taken the time to delve into any good music in general.
So now, please, in the past 5 years, that reaches back to what? When you were 7? So apparently rap has only been the single greatest influencer of music since 2002?
1988- Public Enemy- It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back
1988- NWA- Straight Outta Compton
1988- De La Soul- 8 Feet High and Rising
1990- Public Enemy- Fear of a Black Planet
1991- A Tribe Called Quest- Low End Theory
I could continue on and on naming genre defining albums all released pre-2002, which was a ridiculous year to list as the benchmark for raps influence on the music industry, while I hardly doubt that you could name more than 5 or 6 genre definig punk albums in that time span, and you certainly could not make the point that it has impacted music more greatly. You're on a sinking ship with this argument.
I don't know. Maybe you should make your point better, you're not doing so hot with that. I think it would be an understatement to call you misguided for claiming grunge has had a greater impact on music over the past 20 years than rap.
I hardly doubt that you ever took the time to delve into the good rap, considering you, as a 12 year old boy, probably haven't taken the time to delve into any good music in general.
So now, please, in the past 5 years, that reaches back to what? When you were 7? So apparently rap has only been the single greatest influencer of music since 2002?
1988- Public Enemy- It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back
1988- NWA- Straight Outta Compton
1988- De La Soul- 8 Feet High and Rising
1990- Public Enemy- Fear of a Black Planet
1991- A Tribe Called Quest- Low End Theory
I could continue on and on naming genre defining albums all released pre-2002, which was a ridiculous year to list as the benchmark for raps influence on the music industry, while I hardly doubt that you could name more than 5 or 6 genre definig punk albums in that time span, and you certainly could not make the point that it has impacted music more greatly. You're on a sinking ship with this argument.
I don't know. Maybe you should make your point better, you're not doing so hot with that. I think it would be an understatement to call you misguided for claiming grunge has had a greater impact on music over the past 20 years than rap.
Your Sister in Islam
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This whole notion that punk had more impact than hip hop is laughable.For a start hip hop became mainstream in the mid 80s & stayed there , thats around 20 years for those counting. Punk however started in 1976 & had burnt out by 1980 spending the whole of the 80s underground.And even then it was never mainstream in the U.S.
It could be argued that it became mainstream in the U.S. during the 1990s when Green Day and the like came around. But whether you regard Green Day as punk is a whole different arguement.
Oh and there is the small matter of Hip Hop outselling rock music for about the last decade too.
It could be argued that it became mainstream in the U.S. during the 1990s when Green Day and the like came around. But whether you regard Green Day as punk is a whole different arguement.
Oh and there is the small matter of Hip Hop outselling rock music for about the last decade too.
danikamae beroñas
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Considering you're probably the biggest prog rock fan here thats hardly the most damning of statements.
Thats just it,adapting. Punk is street music and I feel Green Day are far too manufactured for this criteria, at least their sound leaRAB me to this assumption. I'm sure they have deserved the accolades they have recieved. They have achieved more than I have in their lives!
Sorry, I didn't realize that he was asking for us to rank them...I thought they were banRAB you listed on your own. My apologies to you.
Still though, my thoughts on Green Day still stand. Maybe they never labeled themselves as punk rock, but this is what so many other people label them as and it's rediculous. They have no originality, their music in unnecessary, and personally I think they are phony. Who calls themself, "Tres Cool" anyway. Someone with a narcissistic complex. Also, it is also the people who get so "rah rah Green Day" that drives me to dislike them even more.
Still though, my thoughts on Green Day still stand. Maybe they never labeled themselves as punk rock, but this is what so many other people label them as and it's rediculous. They have no originality, their music in unnecessary, and personally I think they are phony. Who calls themself, "Tres Cool" anyway. Someone with a narcissistic complex. Also, it is also the people who get so "rah rah Green Day" that drives me to dislike them even more.
tx...mommy
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No-all those sources are hearsay, and NOT from the horses mouth. Animal Farm can be applied retrospectively, but Waters always meant for Animals to be a rant against contemporary society and not against the class system.
Mister Sister
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How did you slip under my radar? 
There goes my one man crusade for a Scouse free forum. :/
And just to split hairs Chas Chandler didn't discover Jimi Hendrix...he discovered a man by the name of Jimmy James, which was the name he was using while he played for a band called The Blue Flames.
And another thing...L*******lians...aren't British!
There goes my one man crusade for a Scouse free forum. :/
And just to split hairs Chas Chandler didn't discover Jimi Hendrix...he discovered a man by the name of Jimmy James, which was the name he was using while he played for a band called The Blue Flames.
And another thing...L*******lians...aren't British!
JohnnysAngel
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Animal Farm is essentially a stab at communism. Thats not really the point of Animals. Theres no references to communism, its more of a stab at captialism, religion and the british goverment than anything else.
This is especially true with Pigs (Three Different Ones). Where Waters attacks Margaret Thatcher and Christian campaigner Mary Whitehouse. That song has virtually nothing to do with Animal Farm other than Pigs syrabolizing the upper class and the powers that be.
This is especially true with Pigs (Three Different Ones). Where Waters attacks Margaret Thatcher and Christian campaigner Mary Whitehouse. That song has virtually nothing to do with Animal Farm other than Pigs syrabolizing the upper class and the powers that be.
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huh?
you asked who discovered jimi hendrix..
i tried to make a funny
you asked who discovered jimi hendrix..
i tried to make a funny
ya everyone thinks van halen was great because eruption...which is a cool guitar solo. they never struck me as being REALLY amazing by any means.
The Who
The Ramones
The Clash
Green Day (pre nimrod)
Bad Religion
Dead Kennedys
The Stooges
The Sex Pistols
Metallica
Pearl Jam
Nirvana
Black Sabbath
Tool
AC\DC
Van Halen
System of a Down
this isnt really a biased ranking either because i like pearl jam better than metallica, and tool better than black sabbath.
The Who
The Ramones
The Clash
Green Day (pre nimrod)
Bad Religion
Dead Kennedys
The Stooges
The Sex Pistols
Metallica
Pearl Jam
Nirvana
Black Sabbath
Tool
AC\DC
Van Halen
System of a Down
this isnt really a biased ranking either because i like pearl jam better than metallica, and tool better than black sabbath.