Toon Zone Talkback - "Family Guy Volume Seven": Who Says Seven is a Lucky Number?

Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's why they did it. The gag was that 95% of the viewing audience was going "WHY DON'T THEY STOP?" Family Guy ceased being an animated sitcom ages ago and is now almost entirely an avant-garde experiment with nonlinear narrative, performance art, metafiction, and social mores.If a joke can be too sick for you, Family Guy isn't really your show, is it?When you share an opinion with the Parents Television Council, it's time to reconsider your opinion.The plots, like those of most sitcom episodes, were contrived and only got in the way of the humor. The cutaway gags were what made the show popular and allowed it to come back. The occasional moral learned at the end is a device that should have died decades ago, and is one of the key tropes that television programming needs to drop wholesale. Anyone who expects to learn a life lesson from Peter Griffin needs their head checked.
 
Who said anything about me sharing an opinion with them? All I did was state a simple fact, as they are indeed filing a complaint for that episode. That doesn't mean I agree with them. And even if I did, why would I have to reconsider my opinion?
 
Family Guy has the same problems with it's fandom that The Simpsons has.. their fans cannot move on. People are stuck in these periods of times where their show was on it's peak and when the show tries to change (either to adapt to the comedy style of a new era or because the writers were changed) the fans start to shout and call infidels anyone who dares to like any episode/season after their "Golden" times.

The show was six years old when it came back and had 2-3 years of cancellation prior. The same thing happened with the simpsons it changed after six-seven years of being on the air. both shows are now hated by the internet fandoms(Who think their opinion represents the majority of the target audience) and people wish cancellation.

ahh.. the vicious cycle of Animated comedy.:)
 
What you are insinuating about the PTC being evil is still just your opinion. Even though I agree with your opinion, there are people that don't agree with it. Comparing the PTC with salt in order to prove that the PTC is bad just doesn't work, because salt being salty is fact, while the FTC being bad is opinion. Do you see the difference?
 
Yes, I see the difference. What I was doing there was called exaggeration, or facetiousness. I don't want to go so far as to call it a "joke," a humorous utterance which generates surprise and/or laughter via exaggeration of one or more elements, as it wasn't necessarily intended to provoke laughter, but it certainly wasn't serious.

However, I do believe my opinion is correct. If I didn't, it wouldn't be my opinion. And in my opinion (and I think there's pretty solid fact to back me up for most of this), organizations like the Parents' Television Council create a chilling effect on free speech by intimidating entertainment companies and creators into following a certain, rigid agenda of social engineering by threatening and bullying. They can do this because they have the unwavering, blind support of a massive bloc of citizens who are committed firmly to "family values" and "family causes," whatever their pundits of choice define those things to be. This causes American society to remain very focused on social mores and taboos, to the point that sex is still difficult to talk seriously about in public, rape is still often considered the fault of a promiscuous woman, Christianity is far more a dominant force than it proportionally should be, abortion is in constant danger of becoming outlawed, and gay people can't live as if they are human beings. Cutting-edge art is almost universally derided as being either pornographic or "so easy my six-year-old could do it," because of these groups' undermining of the culture and its ability to read more into art than appears on the surface. Minority groups, from women and blacks to gays and latinos, remain suppressed by the white male population, but are disallowed from talking about it. And anything remotely involving the government is termed socialism.

Therefore, groups like the Parents' Television Council are, in great part, responsible for keeping America socially stunted when compared to other, far more advanced Western nations.

In other words, I don't care that it's my opinion. What I was trying to say was, if you don't share my opinion, I think you should change yours, because I think yours is wrong. That might seem like a horribly arrogant thing to say, and maybe it is, but if you don't think that way, you don't actually have an opinion. You just have thoughts.
 
I disagree, because how many people actually pay attention to them, or even know that they exist? If I had to guess, I'd say it's about the same amount of people that correctly know how to operate the V-chip, which is not a high number of people. That's why those episodes of Family Guy still get played, and will be played for years to come in syndication, because these groups don't have that much influence at all. The PTC has petitioned to the FCC dozens of times, and yet the FCC has only ruled in their favor a couple of times.

Besides, do we really need the F-word and nudity prevalent in our TV shows? I don't think so. It's still a freedom of speech issue, but I'm more worried about the freedom to voice opinions, not the freedom to have pornography on the TV. If you really want it, go buy the DVD. It's as simple as that.
 
Cute. Are you being funny again? Because sarcasm doesn't show to well on the internet.

On the subject of Family Guy DVDs, I just can't get into them anymore. Family Guy is purely a show I can only seem to watch on TV nowadays. I'm not really sure why that is, but it would be nice if they would make them season releases again.
 
Let's get back on-topic, people. This is a Family Guy thread, not a thread on the PTC or censorship or any of the other tangents y'all seem to want to go on. If it's not directly related to Family Guy, take it elsewhere.
 
To be fair, Seth was grateful. Look at season 4. I don't understand why season 4 gets hate. Aside from it being a great season, Seth did make sure to reference as much of the first three seasons as possible. It was a Thank You. Season 5 is when things really started to change and I think that's what Seth is getting at. He wanted to move on. Fans had their first three seasons and a transitional fourth season. If they don't like the new stuff then whatever. He's not going back. He moved on. And I do think fans (or atleast INTERNET fans) are a bit harsh. It's the classic complaining for the sake of complaining scenario. If you truely hate the show then stop watching it. But of course...people can't because they love to complain. Like I said, season 4 was great. Season 5 was pretty good. Season 6 started good, but got hurt by the writer's strike towards the end. And season 7...well...that did suck. I'll give you that. But you can see why I sticked around. I liked the first six seasons. So, it's understandable if I complain about season 7. But people that have been complaining since season 4...why bother? Just stop watching. Simple as that. And that goes back to what Seth was saying. He said "thank you" with season 4 and has moved on. If you don't like it then stop watching.
 
I wouldn't say people LOVE to complain. Unless you're suggesting that given the choice, people would rather watch a bad episode than a good episode, which is just silly.

Though I do agree about season 4. Outside of a few episodes that I still don't care for ("Patriot Games", "Don't Make Me Over", "Deep Throats", "Perfect Castaway", "Courtship of Stewie's Father"), I enjoyed most of that season, even when it was new.

Anyway, we should probably get back to discussing volume 7, which IS what this talkback is about, after all.
 
^Not really, because Family Gay and The Juice is Loose aren't on Vol. 8, they are on Vol. 7. The worst episode on the Vol. 8 set is probably Stew-roids. Although I'm not too sure as to why he linked to the Volume 8 review, or why he bumped a thread that is nearly a year old...

Anyways,

That right there pretty much negates the whole review for me. Anyone who calls The Simpsons the most "entertaining or even-handed" animated sitcom on TV right now can't be taken too seriously when writing a scathing review of a Family Guy set.
 
I think there should be a mathematical formula for the phenomenon that every time Family Guy is mentioned, a discussion inevitably arises of the decline of the show. Anybody a math major here? ;)
 
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