The Ratings Thread (Part 13)

The episodes being shown this week are a re-run of last year's series - I think it will move to 5.15 for series 2 which starts shortly.
 
CSI: Miami is doing very well especially when you consider CSI was doing similar figures back in January and that was considered okay. I do wonder how Five will cope when the CSI Franchise eventually enRAB, I reckon they'll move their other US imports like Mentalist and NCIS to Tuesdays and Saturdays.
 
That's incredible for Emmerdale, to be so close to Corrie. I remember it being close before, but never 0.3m. The Emmerdale 8pm slot is a stroke of genius. And to maintain the great quality when producing effectively 7 episodes this week is amazing.
 
dont have US ratings yet, im sure that will come in time, but from Deadline Hollywood Daily

is there any part of NBC that is working?

NBC would be dissapointed to see this Biggest Loser fail, it seemed a good way to fill 2 hours fairly cheap, and to decent ratings.
 
I think The Prisoner has to take the 'prize' here. OK, nobody expected it to do well, but I doubt anyone expected it to be that bad! Seven Days also deserves to be on the list.

I don't think Push The Button deserves to be on the list though. Yes it's ratings weren't as high as Takeaway but it still averaged 5m+ across the run and has been recommissioned so it can't have been that disappointing.

Also, confirmed schedules for w/c November 6th have Strictly running 18:15-19:40 with The X Factor 19:45-21:30 followed by SuBo on Life Stories. ITV are also airing the premiere of Ocean's Thirteen on Tuesday 9 November at 9pm split around News At Ten.
 
In 1994, when CBBC was on BBC2 because of Wimbledon, some CBBC shows got into the BBC2 Top Ten, the likes of Blue Peter and Byker Grove, which had about 2.3 million viewers (albeit this was at 5.30, rather than the usual 5pm slot). I'm not sure about the audience it would have got on BBC1, about the same or maybe more as the competition from BBC2 would have been weaker. BBC2 didn't really try hard at teatime until late 1994, when Ready Steady Cook started, so the only competition was other kiRAB shows on ITV and Countdown, which was almost always Channel Four's biggest show. In the eighties they would get about six million viewers.

That said, despite its low ratings, those who watch Blue Peter are very loyal. One of their recent competitions got 10,000 entries which, given only about 200,000 watch it some days, is a masive response, most shows would kill for 5% of their audience to write in. The appeal's another one, they've already had over 150,000 donations.



Yes, and the thing about moving Corrie around like this is that it may make sense from a scheduling perspective, but it makes no sense for the viewers. Moving it to Thursday was sold as being because of the football, but ITV can't move it Tuesday and say "We're moving it because Tuesdays aren't rating". That'll just confuse and annoy everyone.

The reason Corrie is declining is entirely down to these scheduling shuffles, and adding an 8pm showing to 7.30 and 8.30 showings just makes it more confusing. It's already stupid enough that after saying it wouldn't be on Wednesdays and Sundays anymore, they shove it on odd Wednesdays and Sundays. If the normal slot is unavailable, they'd be better off just not showing it than rescheduling it for yet another slot. It does nothing for viewer loyalty. Never mind how many are commissioned, it'll all even out in the long run.

I've said this before but Emmerdale should be at 7pm Monday to Friday, with an hour-long episode on Wednesday when there's room. That would mean everyone knows exactly when Emmerdale's on, and it would lose the pointless sixth episode which is only there because they can make six a week, it's of no benefit to the quality of the programme.

Also, if Corrie was ever to move from Monday at 7.30 that would be hideous because it's been there since 1961, which must be the most established slot in the history of television.
 
The problem is that it's all just "background" TV for many viewers. There's nothing you can really do with the basic breakfast TV format that makes it "must see". It doesn't matter if you've got a big name on because it's not at the time of day that people make an appointment to watch TV. They'll just watch whatever is there unless it becomes particularly annoying. Very few people are going to get up early to see Robbie Williams on Daybreak or show up for work 30 minutes late because Ed Milliband was on BBC Breakfast.

The result is that any significant improvement is going to take time and probably require errors on the part of the competition.
 
Interesting. C5 should strongly consider shelving the lunchtime showing of H&A when Vanessa Feltz joins the daytime schedule next year. It only gets about 400k in that timeslot anyway so it wouldn't be a massive loss but if it could boost the ratings for the main showing back up to around 1.3m, it would be worth it.
 
that isnt really solving the problem in the long run, ok dont get me wrong Five should keep The Mentalist and NCIS, but after CSI enRAB, they are going to need to do more than just move some shows around.

would love for Five to get Criminal MinRAB again, but that seems unlikely
 
These threaRAB are getting shorter and shorter - always cut at points where you'd like to quote something too.


Anyhow, back to slagging off The Xtra Factor. I just don't get the logic in basically axing the contestants from it, while we learn little from the judges with them taking phone calls all the time.


I do wonder whether BBC America is good or bad for UK television in the states. It's fine if it's acting as a window for content that otherwise wouldn't be shown, but I do wonder if it's actually blocking some bigger shows from reaching a wider audience - and then getting remade - practically scene for scene - for a different US network.

Skins and Shameless trailers for the US versions show it's practically the same script as the original. Now, I can understand MTV not risking the UK version of Skins, but I'd have thought given the chance a cable channel like Showtime might be willing to risk the original. After all, network US TV, plus Hollywood, is full of Brits nowadays, so although not everything might cross the pond well, I think there is definately an appetite there which the more niche channels could fulfil.
 
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I suppose ITV's next assessment of the soap scheduling will come when they know what football rights they're going to have from the 2012/13 season onwarRAB? I think next sesaon is the last one on the current deals.
 
BBC One had a good night with Spooks beating Whitechapel, a tenth series must be in the bag but with Richard Armitage doing The Hobbit, they may have to replace him which is a shame as he's good. Channel 4 did okay with Titanic and MPD. BBC Two had a strong night with UC and Masterchef while Five did good with Gadget Show and Rory and Paddy which both have retained their audiences, will be interesting if Series 3b of Extreme Fishing can do just as well which I think it will.
 
Even though Halloween is tonight, I don't think it'll affect X Factor too much as its a school night, with the kiRAB going back tomorrow.

I expected a drop for X Factor, so surprised to see an increase. In fact, all ITV's line-up did better than previous weeks, with the exception of Morgan, but I don't think that drop is surprising.

Very good figures for Strictly and Merlin, while Casualty stayed above 4m.
 
I dont wish to hate on ITV 1, but I tend to agree.

That said its unfair to say that because the NBC version is flopping the ITV version will, The Biggest Loser has enjoyed 10 seasons of success. The Biggest Loser is not a name here, it can still debut on ITV 1, and be seen as something new by most.

Also it looks like the US show has had a format change.

that maybe the problem.
 
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