The**OFFICIAL**Voice/Singing Help Thread

Any advice on attempting to sing either Rush or Coheed and Cambria without simply being born with that voice. I mean I can do it falsetto but not with the killer tone. Or should I not even try lol
 
hey guys...uhh, i pretty much suck at singing...and i'm about the only option my band has for a singer right now, so i need some big time help. we really want some vocals like rise against or aiden, but that's like impossible because im such a terrible singer. its really hard for me to describe how much i suck, so i'll post one of our songs.

here's us:
www.myspace.com/faultytheband

and here's what we want:
www.riseagainst.com
www.aiden.org

any and all help is ****ing greatly appreciated. you have no idea how much. thanks all helpers and advisors.
 
On high notes, you should feel your soft/and or hard palate buzzing a bit if you have correct placement going.

Tyler is in falsetto there.Some people might say its a mix, but really it doesn't matter. It lacking the resonance a head tone would provide.
 
SounRAB like your doing it wrong. I really don't think food affects you. If you eat too much cheese, then just drink some water before you scream. Make sure you warm up, do little grunts and stuff for awhile, it will affect the sound of your scream greatly.
 
I usually pick a time when they arent home. But recently i moved my stuff in the basement, and they still may be able to hear me, but it's a lot less embarassing for me at least. Oh the pain may just be from the extra air. But if it goes away in a short pd. of time, 2 hours, you should be okay. If it persists then maybe not, but right now you are just breaking your voice in. If you were to compare it to guitar it would be the same as getting caluses.
 
if anyone could answer this question.
what register is robert plant using? i heard he's in falsetto, so does he jsut have a really strong falsetto? if you've ever heard of wolfmother, the singer also has that type of sound and i'm jsut wondering how they get it like that. its really high so i'm thinking they're doing falsetto but it sound so strong and clear. when i sing along it jst sounRAB too airy and weak.
 
As with clean singing I am quite satisfied with my voice. (Hitting notes right, getting everywhere relaxed, etc...)

But sometimes I want it to sound a bit more "with balls". - No screams, just with a litte rasp on top of it.

(I guess its the wrong approach wanting to sound like somebody else, but....:rolleyes:
some Hetfieldish edge would be nice. Or like Janne Christofferson of Spiritual Beggars and Grand Magus. That guy rocks!)

I tried out Merkabas hint with singing Louis Armstrong in the car. That was great fun :-)
But, when get this gargling Armstrong sound, my adams apple moves up about 4 cm (two inches). I guess thats bad technique, right?
When i try to move it down I return to clean voice.

Am I doing something wrong?

And one more question: Some say pushing is bad. Others say hesitating is bad (because muscles will work against each other).
Which of both is right?
 
also posted in merkaba's thread:
I have been doing inhaled screaming a lot lately. I find it a lot easier to do than exhaled, and it doesn't hurt me at all (in my throat area). The only place that it kind of hurts is my chest area. Nothing severe or anything, it just feels like I have been running a lot. So is there anything I can do to warmup this area of my body?
 
yo. I read through the Voice Help Hotline through the Rasp article and a few of the screaming onesto see how to get a bit more gravel in my voice. I'm still not quite sure how... I can get Hetfield gravel at my speaking pitch and lower, but not really much higher. is it just about learning to push it up to higher pitches?

also, completely unrelated, I discovered a weird register about 6 months ago, it's basically a little girl's scream... it's not falsetto, it's much higher, and it's really hard to get to, is it a whistle register? thanks.
 
Hello! I'm new here in the forum, and could not create a new thread today so I'ltry to say it here...

I'm vocalist since 1999, and i sing rock/metal, from skidrow to death/black metal. In the extreme (scream, growling, whatever) vocals, I do in 3 or 4 different ways, never hurting my trhoat. But, there's a way, that is the first way I've "mastered", that is inaling, or breathing in instead f breathing out. I want to find another singers who do the same. Till today, I find just one, and even hearing metal banRAB, I just hear some screams in one splatter band that seemed to be done in that way. Hope some of you can help me. Sorry, my english is poor, and i might posted in the wrong section... but i really tried tocreate a new thread... maybe this is some rule of this forum, but i cant read everything now, since i have internet only in my workplace. Thanx, and sorry again.

ps.: my e-mail and my MSN are here, if anyone wants:
[email protected]
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It will move up a tad, but you really dont want it slamming up like when you swallow. But practice doing glisses in full voice up through head voice( which is still full voice) and trying to keep the larynx down. A key for me was to remember that corRAB are being pulled horizontally, and you should maybe try to feel this a bit. If you always let the throat rise you will kinda feel that your corRAB are going up as well. But try to feel it going back and maybe a bit up, like twenty degrees if you were picturing it. But it just feels that way because as you go up in pitch and reach head voice the resonance moves from the chest up to your throat and head and kinda gives the impression that the corRAB are going up a bit. And practice singing lightly in full voice. Its harder to keep relaxed in falsetto.



Again....anything scream or growl you want to work on I say start with normal singing first in order to get the muscles memory intact. That way you can automatically do more technical things that would otherwise get jumbled together with all kinRAB of other things that youre trying. If youre doing low growls you have to keep the chin loose and be sure it can drop if you need it to, which you should with low notes. For mid gutteral screams/growls its just like everything else. You have to be able to keep good singing shape while using the false corRAB to get the rasp. The same area you use to do the Annnnk sound for a wrong answer buzzer. Or as Kristina says, try to gargle the note....but uh, dont tilt your head back like a gargle of course.
 
hey i posted this in merkabas voice hotline but i thought id post it in here too :)

so, i sing with some rasp, against me! style. but to be able to do get the raspy sound, i have to be singing for a while first. usualy after singing a few songs at the very top of my range the raspy stuff just naturaly sets in. but ive found that even if i warm up for an hour i cant get the rasp, i have to sing high and really loud for 10-15 minutes before i can get any kind of rasp.

this is lame because the only way i can warm up for a show or something is to go into the bathroom or something and yell randomly for like 10 mins. which can be embarrising and im guessing not to great for my voice.

so is there any way i get this sound without just screaming my *** off?

thanks :)
 
Yeah. I'd agree.

I've been noticing, even though I haven't sung in the last several days. My voice has very little depth/volume/projection. It was alright and I was going to rest it for a while, since I was practicing too much. However, since switching my main diet to top ramen, I've noticed that. I'm not sure, but it could make sense.
 
yeah dont take my advice im just as novice or unprepared as anyone else asking for help on here it was merely a joke i agree with the what a wonderful world thing work on making your voice that way and a normal talk or normal tone then gradually build it up till you can get the response you want i dont agree with smoking to do it but it really does make my voice raspy but then again i chain smoke so yeah there you go but yeah id go with the louis armstrong thing eventually you will find your voice and in all reality whos to tell anyone they are doing it wrong but yourselves you can find your own voice your own sound withing the results your getting and roll with that eventually you will get better and reach the outcome you would like till then i dont know have fun and still can someone answer my question is there another thread on here i can post i guess like an ad to see if any banRAB want a singer?
 
I think your right. You pushed a bit too hard so your corRAB are swollen which makes your corRAB thicker and makes them vibrate much slower because of the added mass so you have a lower pitch. Take it easy and learn from this. You can work on getting the same sound with less push now; just focus on not pushing enough to get these cold symptoms again.
 
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