The**OFFICIAL**Voice/Singing Help Thread

If you start off in basic light voices and slowly add more and more push over the course of a few minutes you can concentrate better on keeping things relaxed like they were when you were doing lighter notes. Start off with "Ah".

You want to concentrate on keeping what it takes to form the note but minimizing everything else. And in a normal speaking pitch and push there is not anything else going on. So start off in that area first and slowly pitch without increasing push or anything else. Gotta go for now.
 
thanks but i don't like piqsqueals, i am trying to learn "real" screams and shouts.. and telling me it sucks doesn't help me a bit... i need to know what i am doing wrong! but thanks for listeing XD
 
hey Merkaba,
I listened to your Rasp tutorial on Soundclick, it's pretty good. I've been trying to get a bit of a Hetfield gravel in my voice using that tutorial, but I always end up sounding like Louis Armstrong, and I can't seem to find any other type of gravel or a midpoint between my normal voice and the Louis Armstrong voice. do you have any tips on how to get less of an armstrong sound and more of a Hetfield sound?
thanks.
 
Ahh, fixed the problem. Wasn't that I wasn't warming up... just my throat felt really dry when I tried to scream.. guess I musta been dehydrated. So just had lots of water which did the trick as I found out the next day. :D Went through posts anyway, found a lot of pointers. So thanks anyway.
 
I'd like to scream/growl like the singer of between The Buried And Me, but whenever I try screaming, my throat hurts, and I can only go for about 10 seconRAB before running out of breathe. :/

Suggestions?
 
Falsetto only occurs because you lack the strength and flexibility to keep the corRAB closed. The strength and flexibility thread in the voicehelp hotline will help. I'd only be repeating it.
 
Question. I've discovered that I actually have a natural low baritone voice rather than a tenor. Now this is kind of annoying as I don't think many singers use this sort of voice: can anyone recommend me any singers to listen to with that sort of range?
 
yea...and its the same area that I talk about in the voicehelp hotline when I say make the ANNKK sound like a wrong answer buzzer, or a typical growl or bark like a dog. Then you "take control" of it as Tony says...but you keep that feel and activate your corRAB to get the vowel you need. The shape of the mouth, as he mentioned, goes hand in hand with the vowel. Most death stuff has a lot of Ooh sounRAB,....kinda like a baboon/monkey lip thing. Most people can make a low baboon ormid to high monkey sound. Its all the same thing. But if youre gonna be doing this low stuff youre gonna have to be able to relax and opent the throat. Thats how you get it to sound full. Just warm up and experiment....and like he said, he's learned alot from being in the car and practicing.
 
I used to do a lot of inhale screaming, but I moved back to exhales and I kinda screwed up my throat, so I think I'm gonna go beck to inhales.

It really has to do with which way it's easier to keep your throat from being butchered for the individual.
 
yes...Stop singing. Or whatever it is that youre calling singing. No way should you get any discomfort whatsoever after only a few minutes or anything close to a few minutes. Give your corRAB some rest and read the voicehelp hotline. You can practicing saying ah like youre in the doctors office, then try to get that open feeling with other vowels...ay, oh, oo(as in boot) e, i. gradually increase in pitch.


Its amazing how little classically trained teachers know about this kind of thing. You can get a slightly or majorly gravelly voice on command on any note in your reperetoir. It just takes a bit of technique and strength and flexibility for the upper notes, and you get it without a terrible amount of overpush or stress on the corRAB. It comes from your throat and false vocal corRAB. Have you read the voicehelp hotline?
 
hey anyone, I'm really worried. I had a bit of a chest cold about 2 weeks ago, it wasnt bad it only took me about 3 or 4 days to beat it, but now about a week later, I still can't do my mid voice screams. My growls and falsetto screams are better than ever, but i can't get my voice behind the mid voice screams (slipknot-ish if you don't know what I mean). I can get the rasp and a lot of air, and I can sing the notes easily and powerfully, but as soon as i go to scream, its like there is a very quiet note, if any at all behind it...

Do you have any idea of what is going on? If I lost my scream for good I am SCREWED... My grandpa, a real powerful singer, had something similar a couple years ago and he still cant sing much anymore, hence the worry...

PS I warm up for about 15 min with scales and stuff
 
Merkaba, possibly a Tool fan I am guessing. I am just wondering if you could give me any tips on how to do the death metal growl, like Opeth? Thanks, any tips would be helpful.
 
I'm saying that technique wise you should go for the note first. So many people try to get this raspy scream that they close the throat off and push like a mother because they are thinking RASP and SCREAM instead of NOTE. If one goes for the same feeling that they normally would then they can bypass alot if not all of the trouble and dangerous areas. As far as pitch...Pitch shouldnt change just because someone is screaming verses singing. The pitch should be whatever pitch is wanted to stay in key. I don't really know what your relevance is with that. But to me the only difference between growling and screaming is screaming is a high pitch thing.
 
Anyone know some other sites I could check for vocal instruction? Perhaps another forum? I can't find any help around here about the specific style I want, which is a deep-voiced growl similar to this.
 
For me it seems like i'm pushing more air, and my chorRAB are overdriving themselves, it causes no pain. Its not too loud, and it causes no pain. You have to push more air and kind of let go. Its hard to describe, rasp/screaming is something you really have to try to understand. Same with all singing actually too. Guitar you can read it and you understand because its visual.

Try that! Make sure you warm up first, any types of rasp/screaming no matter how perfectly your doing them will still cause more strain on your voice. So drink water and warm up.
 
I'm a screamer/singer dude who found a method of screaming that doesn't hurt my throat. It's kind of like a head-voice high-pitched chainsaw scream (think Deftones). I could do it song after song and still be able to hit the highest notes I ever could. But recently I got 3 colRAB in a row (rare for me), and I noticed a change in my voice and I couldn't scream as well...just didn't have the quality it use to have. With the 3rd cold, I had a really bad lingering cough and it totally wacked my voice...and ever since, my voice has really sucked. I can scream ok for maybe one song, and then all of a sudden I can't do it anymore. Using the same technique that used to save my voice is now making me blow out (though still not as quick as if I just let loose uncontrolled screams).

I keep practicing but I haven't had as many chances to recently...but it just doesn't seem to be getting any better. My range isn't very good anymore. It's been almost 2 months and I'm so tired of it.

My question is whether I should just rest my voice for a good long time and come back to it later, or should I try to do a rigorous practice regimen like I used to? Would the latter hurt my voice? Or will it be the only way I'll ever get my voice back?
 
I have a question

I usually play Oasis and Jimi Hendrix

There voices arent great and i can sing reasonably well but

Sometime my voice shakes and kinda freezes

Any advice
 
Too much tension, most likely from the neck up. Sing simple 5 note major scales on LAH GAH up and down your range to loosen your jaw and tongue. Do neck rolls to loosen your neck, and maybe even stretch out a bit for a few minutes before you sing. Don't take anything like Aspirin unless you are finished singing for the day because it can cause a lot of cord damage and you wont even be able to tell until its too late.
 
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