The**OFFICIAL**Voice/Singing Help Thread

and i've been trying to write a song (once again) but a lot of worRAB i can't even say cause it sounRAB so damn stupid coming from me. like the word "talking" i had to take out, now i have to think of 2 new lines >:o
 
Correct I think.

As you work on tone, you'll still have to work on range, sometimtes getting good tone, sacrifices range for a while, then when you get it back, its easier, sounRAB better, and you can get even higher. Oh, and basically just singing makes your tone better if your recording and listening. That way you can get your own "style". Raspiness you'll find your own way of doing and your own sound for it. Read for tips on how to do it, basically most tips you get just encourage you to try something, and you end up doing something else and getting it your way.
 
You've been sick. Nothing to worry about. Drink alot of water, stay hydrated, and never push more then you need to - Mucus makes you think you have too push harder because its blocking cord vibration. You have to realise when this is happening.

Normally, after eating food, the mucus thats generated to absorb...um...stuff, hangs around for a few hours. Your voice will become dull and lose its brightness. Again, drinking water tenRAB to solve this problem at times - Just don't drown yourself if it isn't working out. :thumb:
 
Dont worry about vocal categorization; it's pointless unless you're doing classical. Work on some Seal songs; they are all pretty challenging even though they don't sound like it. Baritone/Tenor would cover basically everyone, but again it doesnt matter. I'm sure all of your favorites would be considered either tenor or baritone, most are baritone though.
 
At the mention of this I'm going to advise nobody to ever attempt a "gut" scream. It is very damaging to your vocal chorRAB.

Nearly all screams/growls/etc should be done with your "falsetto" voice. It doesn't have to be loud as the post I quoted has stated; just let the microphone do the work.

The "falsetto" voice is basically the little girly voice in the back of your throat. It only uses a small portion of your vocal chorRAB, so it's safer and more efficient to use for aggressive vocal styles.
 
Fuzzyhair,
You have strained your corRAB so:
No ibuprofen or anything like that. They can cause major damage to your vocal corRAB so avoid them. Same with chloraseptic and other throat numbing sprays. It's fine if your not going to speak or sing, but you could be pushing your voice to an extreme and you wouldn't feel a thing which is not good.
Do light scales starting on the highest falsetto you can COMFORTABLY hit right now. 5 notes, downward. Do this until you reach the bottom. Do some lip trills and humming as well. It's better (unless you have laryngitis) to keep your voice flexible than to just go totally quiet. Going totally silent will cause even more mucus to form which will result in even less of a voice.
Tea will help as long as there is no caffeine but quit drinking it and switch to water. Drink a gallon of it tomorrow. Breath some steam as well to loosen mucus.
 
Come on dude, you perfectly describe what youre doing wrong.

All I can tell you is what I always say:
Warm up, warm down afterwarRAB
Singing notes in normal operatic voice will teach you proper breath support, isolation, and larynx placement. The larynx is key because if you allow it to rise up, as it normally would especially when singing high and tense and full of adrenaline it will be detrimental! This bascially concentrates the air pressure and you over blow which creates heat and dryness....to a mucus membrane. A no no. Then comes swelling, then comes your post. It may sound "gay" butnormal singin is the best thing for someone who wants to scream all the time. As you go up in pitch you actuall need to back off in pus because the corRAB are pulled thinner. But who does this? Watch rockers sing and watch them go harder when they go higher because they are equating high notes and that tension on the corRAB with high and hard tension everywhere else which is a no no. This is what we mean by isolation. Being able to know the feel of moving the corRAB for pitch without moving anything else.

If you have a "throat" infection whatever that is, be careful. You can have a cold and a sore throat and be relatively ok for vocals. If your voice is hoarse or if you feel like you have laryngitis then read a book. Meanwhile eat lots of fresh fooRAB and get plenty of non alcoholic non caffeinated liquid. Im telling ya If youre anything like me you dont like having a screwed up voice. I'd rather do a little of the less than enjoyable stuff like warming up and warming down(which doesnt have to be alot) and a few exercises so that i can do the enjoyable stuff everyday. Of course with me i like everything from opera to heavy metal. If you've never tried opera you might surprise yourself once you start resonating notes and hearing AND feeling your notes. Its almost like a massage.

There is no proper way to scream. But there are ways that will make it less stressful on your system. Even if I've said otherwise in the past, this is what I was meaning.
 
merkaba....if i post a clip of my screaming, or send it to you somehow, are you able to hear what im doing wrong and give tips?

I'd much rather just send straight to you...so if you could get back to me that would be great ;)
 
SounRAB like your last nays after the second run seems to be a jump into falsetto. If it is its close and has some good resonance for a falsetto note. This would certainly address your concerns. If your voice breaks from chest to head then its just simply tension and or a lack of practice in "flipping" into a thinner head voice. Are you doing any glisses....i.e. one continuous note from low to high, like a siren. and vice versa. It might help. Its fine to go up into falsetto, when rising, or to start off in falsetto when falling while doing glisses.
 
Yeah, I was just worried, it went away in 2 hours or so....so does that mean I'm heading in the wrong direction?

Another thing, I'm only 16 so I don't have my own place and was kinda wondering how you guys do your screaming practices. I mean my parents would think I'm psycho. Locking the door doesn't help as well; they can still hear it. Does practicing have the same effect if it's low in volume?

Thanks..
 
this has probably been asked thousanRAB of time, but i cant be bothered to read through it all:rolleyes: .

can someone take me through the basics of singing (stance, head position etc) and little tricks which will help me improve. i mean, i sing every night for hours (accompanied by my guitar) but i dont seem to get any better, so can i have a little help please?:wave:

thank you for your time
 
Tell your music peeps to play it a whole step down, or tune another guitar a whole step down so you can switch within a few seconRAB for live purposes. Or designate that part to be where you introduce everyone/tell about website/tell about cd's, leaving everyone time to tune, then to tune up, give your drummer a solo or something.
 
hahaha, its so hard to understand what singing from the gut feels like, would i be able to tell if im doing it? and how can you hear the difference? ahhh sorry for being so hard to teach. i seached the forums for "singing from the gut" and i went to your voice help hotline and i couldnt find where you say you explain it on pg5. :(
 
Trying to sing like someone else is already an uphill battle, especially since length of, thickness of, and flexibility of the vocal corRAB is subject to genetics, along with size and shape of the larynx. This is what makes everyone unique. Its like a fingerprint. Just like voice identification technology, regardless of how hard you try.

Vibrato as anyone will tell you, is a product of relaxed vocal apparattus...of course. This means open relaxed and untense throat/larynx(not necessarily mouth) along with good breath support. Vibrato can be one of or a mixture of volume, pitch, larynx, and or diaphragm.... so practice that.

The common deal is to overblow. People don't realize how little they actually have to push when singing properly and with a proper mic/pa setup, especially in a studio.

relying on saliva for any vocal effect is the definition of hit or miss. Are you gonna do that on stage??? Uh oh, crapped note from having too much saliva! And extra saliva in the studio is a big nono.

Actually it is the safest way. However muscle memory will come into play if one doesnt do enough clean singing...which is something I stress. As far as the whole octave higher thing I just dont know where you got that from.




I agree with crickets. Youre self conflicting.

In general any vocal production should be comfortable. Even your best scream. You've got to keep air flowing. If youre blocking off too much youre increasing your internal blood pressure among other things, probably the reason for your headaches, that and maybe general muscular tension. How about you try to get the same sound by pushing half as much and relaxing everything like youre trying to go to sleep, including your anal sphincter, which, believe it or not is connected with alot of other "muscle memory" tension meters.
 
Exercises are a must do. If you've never done them, and you start doing the exercises correctly, you'll notice changes in 2 weeks in tone, feeling, and range.

Getting a teacher will definetely help, go for one that teaches you to use head voice and not to stay in chest all the time which is what classical voice teachers generally do.

Screamin Demon recommended me Raise Your Voice a little bit ago, and its a damn good buy. I already notice improvements after 2 weeks of doing the full voice exercises(the first 2 weeks are warmups and falsetto exercises). In 2 weeks of full voice workouts I went from a slightly strained A above middle C, to a comfortable B under high C.

The book is as close as you can get to a pill that makes you a good singer. Although it will take work. :thumb:
 
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