The**OFFICIAL**Voice/Singing Help Thread

Hey, i'm new and haven't had the chance to read the whole thread (though I plan on doing my best to do this soon), so i don't know if this has been discussed, but generally i'm into more metal screaming (Lamb of God, Mudvayne, etc), but recently i've been checking out The Used and their vocalist has an incredible scream, its ridiculously raw and intense. I'm sure there's no healthy way to do this type of scream, but i don't even know where to begin. Does anyone have any tips at all on how to try and get this kind of scream down. Thanks a lot
 
I personally give lessons and could start you next month; check my site on my profile for details.

You could also find other vocal coaches on the net just by doing a search; a lot of coaches do online and video (some even do phone) nowadays, so if there are no good coaches in your area that might be a good option.

There are also programs you could work with like Singing Success, Singers Advantage, and Jaime Vendera's book Raise Your Voice 2nd Edition. Those are just a few suggestions.
 
I'm a complete nublet at this singing phenomena:

I like to sing, at times, very nassaly (Oasis, Beatles, Thom Yorkish), but after reading about Gallagher of Oasis, how can I prevent damage to my corRAB and larynax and preserve that nassale sound (if possible)?
 
Hell i dunno what it is. Its kinda loud but not like a yell. Today i figured out it was louder than spoken voice so i guess i am good. I screamed for another hour today and it just feels like i did a workout but my voice isnt really affected to much. It seems a little bit deaper but not really that much. I guess its just from singing/screaming. I concentrate more on guitar but its fun to just play some songs and scream along with them. But I am being careful and I quit when I feel the need to.
 
Well like I always say....its not THAT big of an issue, but I just state what I know so that you can moderate your intake if you want. Green tea has caffeine in it. You can get decaf. But it doesnt have as much as many other common teas, usually...if I remember correctly. Yes alcohol is bad.

And it would be a real feat to eat too much raw fruit or vegetables. So whatever you like. If its fresh eat it. Stay away from dried fruits and stuff like that. Good luck. Do lots of EE's at speaking pitch and speaking push....hold them for a while. You can also learn to do....I forgot what they are called. I'll try to look it up. But you take a small amount of water in and hold your head down. Now inhale through the water keeping it from spilling out. This helps moisturize a little. This and normal gargaling. I seldom do such but if my corRAB are blasted or something I will do alot of this. I also have a mist inhaler that heats up water and has the little mini mask you put half of your face down in to breath the steam. I dont like it much though because I think it irritates my lungs a bit. Of course I usually over do it though.

Best wishes. Be careful. You only get one set of these strings!
 
Do you record alone?

I tend to have a simalar problem, when I'm at home I can reach a lot more higher notes with ease, yet when it comes to lessons and band practices I tend to restrict my vocals a lot more.

It may not be, but for me it's usually because I'm a bit more paranoid and have a lack of confidence infront of others.

It's best to just keep practicing so it becomes more natural and an automatic process. Ask others opinions when you do a particular high note to help you feel more certain.
 
Merkaba....


"it doesnt matter. Do what you can. Start off in your normal speaking range and try to sing notes in that range. That and the lip trills/motorboats to get your diaphragm working in coordination with your breath support and larynx. Basically you want to make your lips flutter like youre a kid making a motor sound. Now you do this on all vowels(ay,ee,ah,oh,uu,I) yes your mouth will be closed but still position your corRAB for the vowel and make it, keep your teeth together at first if you need to then work on doing them with your teeth far apart, mouth still closed..but you want to keep the lips fluttering with no breaks. They will increase and decrease with pitch, but you want them to be consistent. This is a very important exercise for a beginner. Mix it up and have fun with it but remember the feeling, so you can translate into regular notes."



are you supposed to say all the vowels in one breath while keeping your lips fluttering? or are you supposed to do them all in separate breaths holding one note? and the way that feels is how it should feel using your diaphragm? then what? Where do i go from there to learn to scream?
 
Is this really true? When I growl or scream i can only do it for maybe 5 seconRAB MAXIMUM without stopping and taking a huge breathe.

Since I have a very hard time with harsh vocals and I always seem to do it wrong, I think i should get vocal lessons. Once I get down clean vocals really well, I think it should be alot easier to growl and scream.

Because almost every good singer out there CAN scream and growl, even though they don't do it, but I'm sure it's possible for them.

But the underlined is the most important thing i need to know.

Also, toaster, get on soulseek when you get the chance.
 
I'm just wondering about my range...

As it stanRAB, on a good day I can hit the second Gb below middle C, and the C# above middle C (Not the one directly up from middle C, but the minor ninth from it) without breaking into falsetto.

This leaRAB me to a bit of confusion as to what to call myself as a singer. I can sing slightly higher than most tenors I know, but about half an octave or so lower than most tenors I know as well. What am I?
 
Hey Chase, you don't need to sing only the notes that are ringing on the guitar!

Normally, it sounRAB good to sing in the key, but using your example: D-F#-A (D tryad)...you could sing an E, G, whatever, you'r eprobably going to move.

As said above, stick with what you think sounRAB good and matches your melodic intention.

Take care.
 
Yes thats a gliss. do those down and up, and down and up or up and down combined on one breath. Play with them and try to keep your volume the same, while still picking different volumes to start with.
 
Thats basically it in a nutshell. The corRAB are longer and less tense when doing lower pitches, again, like the low E on a guitar. The problem comes from the natural feeling of wanting to raise the larynx with the pitch to keep resonance on the sound, which again, is akin to playing a tweeter in a bass box. The natural voice is setup to sound best within the given parameters of the voicebox. Trying to go higher than normal is the same thing as previously stated, and like tuning up the high e string. Sure you can get it to an F, maybe a G, But keep going, and strum harder(more push) and see what happens.... so to speak.
 
The pigeon sound is just the basis; some people do use it for falsetto screams for the tone, but its just the first level. For the type of stuff you want to do, your going to want to vibrate the entire soft palate. The uvula is right in the middle of your soft palate, and thats whats moving now, so now you have to get the rest of the palate on both sides of it to vibrate as well. To do this, its going to be even more air, and your going to close your throat a little bit. Its safe though because your closing your pharynx by manipulating the soft palate. Its not something that can really be taught, its just something you have to play around with.

If you can already kind of make a basic form of the sound your going after, you can go ahead and do it that way and start trying to make sure that your feeling vibrations up from your top row of teeth up. Anything below that is too low and is kind of a warning sign that your doing it from your throat.

If you cant already make the sound though, its hard to explain in writing. The best thing you can do is try to get that song, even if its with bad technique at first, and then do like I said and just pay attention to your placement (as well as the breathing and support stuff that you've already got down). The louder or the more rasp you put into the tone, the more you push down.

Don't worry so much about safe. If your worried about damaging yourself, you will damage your voice. When your actually doing the scream, just let it come out. If its not technically correct, try it again, and this time try to get the placement right. The more you actually think about the technical aspects of screaming while your doing it, the more you'll hold back, and in return the more damage you'll end up with.
 
Hey guys

I'm reasonably happy with my chest voice timbre, but when I go into higher head voice I lose some of that. It loses power too.

Is there anyway to either extend my chest voice range, or strenghten up my head voice?

Thanks in advance guys.
 
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