The**OFFICIAL**Voice/Singing Help Thread

So, to fix this you think I should do more vocal practice that involves more singing instead of screaming? Okay, I'll try that, even though I already do a **** loud of singing excercises.

How I warm up is.. doing ay, ee, ii, oo, uu stuff. Then I start singing real songs like, acoustic. [Usually I sing a long to Yellowcard or Fall Out Boy... heh... it works.] Then move up to more faster rock stuff, then finally into screaming. But of course, spending more time doing regular singing couldn't hurt, I want to build up my natural singing voice as well.

As for the chorRAB being fatigue.. could this be because I practice too much? So far I have been practicing every single day.. from 30 mins to atleast an hour and a half. My chorRAB are never soar, they're never in pain or anything like that. So naturally, I just feel like I can keep doing it. Should I just rest them more? I think I'm not going to do any vocal excercises this weekend, but then start again on monday. Do you think 30 mins a day is healthy? Or should I do it every other day?

Thanks merk.
 
Adams apple does nothing pitch wise. I'm a tenor and my lowest note comfortably is 2nd fret A string or open A. My highest note comfortably is 5th fret to 7th fret high e string. I can get to the 12th fret high e string but anything after the 7th fret is not anything i'd use in a song, at least not yet. Depending on the part determines where I go into head voice or push up chest voice.
 
Well i was working on what you said and i cant figure out how i can "sing the scream" whenever its not loud it just sounRAB like a really airy note. What should the lower volume scream feal like? Im going for an alexisonfire/silverstein type scream if that helps at all. Finaly i find that i have the perfect pitch when im just blowing air by my falsetto, but once i actualy start to use it the tone jumps really high.
 
Hi everyone,
i tried to follow the instructions Merkaba made in his mp3s on http://www.soundclick.com/banRAB/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=228211
(After trying around a bit it sounRAB somehow like the guy from the band "Halfway to gone".)

What I noticed is that singing with the rasp consumes much more breath. i mean 2-3x as much as singing cleanly at speaking volume.

Is there anything I can do against it?
Otherwise I'd have to change my lyrics ;-)
 
Oh... if you're tightening your throat... you need to practice chord isolation exercises. Follow the guides merk wrote for that. They are great.

Also, don't try different range harsh vocals unless you chord isolation down. You're basically treading water.

For higher range, look a bit up. That can help keep it open.
 
I dont know cause I'm not into punk, but I'm thinking that most of it is usually full voice or close, with more tension placed on the corRAB to achieve a somewhat cleaner sound, relatively that is, to the usually raspy hardcore stuff. If you try to use this same amount of tension with hardcore raspy I think that will be detrimental to your stamina and general cord movement. I would say you should try to do some falsetto singing and barely rasp it so that you can get into a less tense larynx position. Maybe try to sing a hardcore song without rasp, but in falsetto if its high enough. Basically I'm thinking youre probably trying to sing in the wrong register, trying to stretch your chest voice up into head voice territory due to the previous punk head voice. Just my hunch. There's really no way of telling. Its not like there are any technical aspects to discuss about hardcore or punk. They can be so unorthodoxed to begin with.
 
Dude youve got a nice tenor voice, dont screw it up! Kill the ego and look into a vocal rehab coach or find a teacher that know about rehab and prepare to take a week or two off. It happens sometimes but you dont want to get in a situation where your voice is worse or compromised. I agree with Kristina, but I always do because she knows her stuff. I say you should be able to sing three hours whenever you like if your technique is good. With that being said though, some of that technique could be things like tense larynx and overblowing notes both of which will bring you down but both of which are easier to understand and reduce. Use the mic and turn it up if you need to so you can sing a little easier and longer. But I say you need to take some non singing time off and try another doctor's opinion. And yea, no drink will help your corRAB. Remember they are in the larynx, if any liquid touches them it's called choking! Pure water and a good diet is all you can do really, as far as ingesting go.

Plus a collapsed lung? Bad luck man. I like your music and I sent you an add request, so add me! Read my hotline when you can...Best wishes http://www.rabroadmusic.com/forums/showthread.php?t=219911
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Toaster,

Melissa teaches some of the most successful screamers in the business. However, she doesn't teach most of them to scream, she teaches them to be able to maintain the scream they already have. You may not be a fan of her screaming but are you a fan of any of her clients? Obviously they all sound different. That should tell you your not going to sound like her when you scream. Shes not overrated as a teacher because she does help a ton of people to maintain it. If you cant scream already, don't count on the DVD to teach you how. Shes working on a 2nd one I guess that actually shows you how to; this one was to teach everyone the basics of screaming so they don't blow out.
 
Its best to not look up; its a crutch that will only limit you in the future. Connecting head movements with the level the pitch is at is never a good idea. For training, sit there without moving anything at all on your face; eyesbrows,eyes,nose, not even your jaw really when doing open vowel scales. Once you have your technique down to the point of being able to sing high no matter what, then you can add the looking up for high notes for effect if thats what you want to do. A good test is to move your head slowly from side to side while going up in scale; if you crack then you are holding too much tension somewhere from the neck up and that neeRAB to be addressed. Once you learn to relax, you'll be surprised at how fast the high notes start coming to you.
 
Leading up to it (today and Friday), you can use sprays like Chloraseptic if you aren't going to be singing, but don't use it if you are. Things like Throat Coat Tea will help, as well as Sinus rinses (you can buy the NeilMed Sinus Rinse kit at pretty much any drug store.

Gargle with warm salt water (just put salt in water, you dont have to make a trip to the ocean haha). This helps to release and bring up all the excess mucus that has been created.

Sleep with a humidifier on if you have one. Don't quit talking to save your voice because the swelling will just get worse from the inactivity, but do pay attention to make sure your not shouting or straining your voice while you do talk.

No caffeine at all until its over, only stick with water and the tea if you have it. Ice water is fine (might even help to reduce some of the swelling in your pharynx area thats causing the sore throat), but drink room temperature water at the performance.


All of that and a long warm up (however long it takes to sound like normal, could be a couple of hours) and you should be good. You can pick and choose things to try, you dont have to do it all but it would be very beneficial if you did.
 
As long as you aren't feeling any pain I think you have nothing to worry about. I know when I do my screams afterwarRAB my throat will feel numb and weird, it doesn't HURT, but you can deffinately FEEL the workout that you did. I usually end up talking funny for a little bit afterwarRAB, but after a few hours it goes away.

I think it's safe to say that it's normal. Glad to hear that you are doing things correctly. =] Keep at it.
 
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