The**OFFICIAL**Voice/Singing Help Thread

if you sing the same notes hes hitting you'd probably make the same sound. Hes singing very high notes, like G5 at times. He probably has really good
control of headvoice.

Most times banRAB like this just take chest voice as
high as they can (check out Finch). But im sure this guy is diff, hes pretty
good.
 
How do I go higher? I think I'm doing my high screams the same way as my growls, and I know it isn't right, because it sounRAB like **** and I can't go high.

Seems like when you go higher you tighten your throat more or something.

I'll try that breathing.
 
Yeah, im afraid im very lazy and this is probably covered somewhere within this forum but i have a problem when i sing.
it first developed a while ago when i was practicing hard before a gig in my metal band. i scream near enough all of the vocals and am comfortable with this.. no pain or anything.. until after we ran through the set alot of times in one practice..
my throat completely closed up and i 'gagged' everytime i went to scream a line..
i wanted to carry on to see what would happen if i pushed it further (because i do stupid things like that) but the pain was near enough unbareable..
since that day i've had the same 'gagging' problems when singing for a lengthly time..
if anyone could prompt me on what is causing this, or if i have caused myself any long term damage then that would be a great help.
thanks for your time guys
 
Shinedown....Brent I think he is "baritenor"...or "heldentenor" He has a deeper baritone type of feel but doesnt loose alot at his upper true range. I'm a fan of the group and I've listened and sang along quite a few times. Regardless, remember that if youre trying to sing someone elses style before you know your own limits you are doing yourself a great injustice. So try to sing the song in an operatic voice first with no rasp or screaming, and at a mid volume and see how you can do. I think nickelback and hinder are "safer" to mimic than shinedown.



lol...Most little kiRAB are altos and sopranos...regardless of gender. As you age, as a male, your voice box gets bigger and your corRAB get longer and thicker. Think goinf from thin High E string in a tweeter box to thick low e strings in a woofer box. Where you end up at after puberty, usually around 16 to 18 is where youre gonna be. And you cannot change that range. You can manipulate it but thats about it. Its like bone size. So if youre 13 you probably....PROBABLY have some changing to go through. Post a sample if you can. Start on middle C and sing up one note at a time. If you dont know where middle C is....then you should get to googling.
 
Okay, as far as I can tell, my voice isn't pathetic to the point of making ears bleed (of course I could be wrong so don't quote me there) but I'm not a good singer either. And I want to be! I want to be able to sing my own songs.

Here is me singing: http://www.purevolume.com/159

For some reason, I can't tell where I'm off- so what can I do to improve? People have suggested scales, and I've tried but I can never tell if I'm matching my voice to the piano or not. Breathing exercises, i've done them but that doesn't help much either.

PLEASE HELP :upset:

If bribes help, I have over 34,000 rep and I give out a fair portion :)
 
Yes, exercises can increase your range. Its not so much the particular exercise itself though thats going to do it; its the drilling and stabalizing of technique.

Basically, when you sing a song, theres too much involved. Your trying to sound good, sound cool, put some emotion into it, your not just singing on vowels like most exercises, the phrasing changes throughout so your breathing isn't really consistent, ect.

So, the smart thing is to do exercises, and focus on one thing at a time. When your doing a scale, lets say its a major scale consisting of 5 notes on the vowel "AH".

While you do this exercise, you are only focusing on one vowel, which is "AH". This vowel is good for opening your throat, relaxing your jaw & tongue, and working on placing resonance. Thats just 3 huge benefits on focusing on this 1 vowel.

The next big benefit is that you are only covering 5 notes at a time, and none of the intervals are too far apart. This lets you smoothly and slowly cover your entire range, and really focus on getting your notes down well. If the scale goes 1,2,3,4,5,4,3,2,1, your going to eventually get to a point where within the scale, you are changing registers. Notes 1 & 2 may be in chest, then notes 3 and 4 may be your break where your going into a 'mix', then note 5 will be either falsetto or head voice based on your development/tonality your doing the exercise in, then you go back down into that mix, and finally back into chest. If you can do this all while staying completely relaxed, you'll get through it. If not, you'll break and you can try again.

The other big benefit is you can focus on your breathing technique and support. Before each round of scales, you take your breath, expand your stomach and intercostals, and push down a little bit (or a lot if your doing this loudly in your higher registers). You don't always have that much focus in a song.

Once you get all these good habits integrated, your voice is going to unlock, and your range will increase in both directions quite a bit. Your almost always going to see a larger increase in high notes rather than low.

As far as myself, I havent checked my range forever so I honestly don't know, and im not warmed up enough to check right now. I will guess that it would be around C2-F#5. I can go somewhat higher and somewhat lower with more effort, but not with enough comfort or consistency to count it. The register those notes are in really just depenRAB on how much support and volume I put in it. It starts sounding a little thin and screamy around D or E 5 i'd say, depending on the day, but they can all be consisdered head voice. Its all just a style thing, I stick with more of a classic soul/R&B style, with some Queensryche/Priest styled vocals mixed in. This summer I will be working full time as a vocal coach and doing session work, so when I have that time available to me with recording, i'll have some stuff to post.

When I first started, I wasnt very good at all. I'd say I probably had maybe 2 octaves, probably under, but the voice was very weak with a sucky tone at that, so exercises have helped a whole lot.

Theres no amount of time you can put on how long it will take to increase your range though, because its very dependant on how much focused practice you put into it. If you focus diligently on what I said earlier in this post, it should come to you in a few months, a few notes at a time. If you obsess with range, it will never come because you'll always be focused on the note, and therefore you will tense in preparation for it and you'll be a lost cause. Once I finally quit doing that, my voice kind of unlocked and everything came together.
 
My youth leader is helping me to sing, she says I need to work on my pro/anun ciation. Any tips? Also, I think my voice is a tad bit nasaly, can I fix that?
 
I could get sometype of rasp, that I used and didnt hurt so first thing I do is record it to see how it sounded. It sounded awful! I dont know if I was doing the wrong thing for rasp but it didnt hurt at all and it got a rasp, it just sounded bad. wtf is up?
 
Because when you hear yourself youre hearing with your whole body, namely the extra resonance and "sympathetic" vibrations from the air in the sinuses and all the water in your brain. When you record and play it back you dont hear all of that.
 
are there any diaphram positions i should know about for optimum vocals?

i.e. i dunno, a straight back, relaxed chest or somethin
cheersxx
 
I have a question. There's this death metal band, Origin, and their singer has this really high screech. I've never heard anyone scream as high as this guy can (I'm talking a non-pitched scream). It almost sounRAB like he's doing it through his nose or something. If he's using any sort of different technique, could someone tell me what it is and how to do it?

This link leaRAB to some downloaRAB from the band, the very last one (The Burner) has a good example near the beginning.

http://shop.relapse.com/artist/artist.aspx?ArtistID=10076
 
Ok, I'm a singer and a fukking chain smoker, wtf can I do?
I'll stop smokin in march, so how can I prepare myself for that?
and how can I improve my vocals while I quit smoking?
thx
 
Some people would call it screaming, some would call it shouting.

If you can make the ank, you can do this sound. Just try to sing that part at the same octave that you can make the ank. Then move it up a note til youre in his pitch. I'm sure he was in or around head voice alot. So this is where the glissing exercises come in handy. Be sure you sing the note first or else you might tense up the throat. Try to sing the passage first, cleanly.
 
For anyone who is interested to read a few things about screamo voice here is a post

http://miketheblacksheep.wordpress.com/2009/03/16/is-the-screamo-singing-dangerous-for-the-vocal-chorRAB/
 
I have alot of musically experience, don't worry. My voice is pretty low, i think.

Toaster pretty much explained everything to me, i don't need any more help. Thank you though.
 
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