The**OFFICIAL**Voice/Singing Help Thread

When recording vocals it seems a lot of singers forget the obvious when recording.
They tend to click on record and sing.
Recording is a different process to a performance. you can sing a line at a time and have many takes of the same vocal and then pick out all the best vocal sections to compile your main vocal.
Double/tripple tracking in some instances is also another usefull tool.
Record the songs vocal 2 or 3 times for the main chorus for instance. it works far better than applying a chorus fx. sounRAB more natural. be sure to pan the second and third vocal right back in the mix and far left and right so they are hardly noticeable yet when the chorus kicks in you get this natural rich warmth from the vocal takes as they all gel together to lift the songs chorus etc.
Johnny
 
I sometimes get the melody and then after write lyrics. Thats literally all you do. It takes more time creating unique interesting lyrics, but it can be worth it. The other way around with writing lyrics first will take more time writing the melody.

Each way has its plusses and minuses.
 
Excuse me if I sound like an idiot but I know little (very little) music theory, so what exactly is the C minor ninth above middle C, isn't 'minor ninth' a chord thingy?

There's C4 (middle C), D4, E4, F4, G4, A4, B4 then C5 C#5. That's all I know so if you mean C#5, that'll make you a dramatic tenor with about 2.6 octave range.



Makes me think it's not C#5 you're looking for.
 
1. Technically its called whatever you want to call it. Its up to us to name these things because classical musical approaches give us the other techanical names we use like head and falsetto, and rightfully so there is no classical name for a note that is pushed harder and partially blocked off because, technique wise, there is no difference. Really, its nothing but a note that is sung harder and partially blocked by the throat.

2. If you havent read my isolation thread in the voicehelp hotline then do so, because:
2b. Joe Blow can get the same sound by moving his lips in the opposite way and holding the mic differently.

If youre missing body, youre not isolating properly or youre just not strong enough to keep the corRAB in optimal vibrational thickness and shape for the given force youre pushing.
 
I've been hearing a lot about Melissa Cross, her techniques and her DVD (The Zen of Screaming). So I checked out her website. I was trying to find what kind of technique she uses, and I stubled across this.

http://www.melissacross.com/voice_lesson_testimonials.php?

What? Her screaming is some of the worst I've ever heard in my life. It's actually softer than her speaking voice.. which is highly undesirable, I think. Take a look at the first and third videos. They both show her demonstrating a "proper" scream, and it sounRAB awful. Anyone else think Cross (and her "true" scream) is overrated as a vocal instructor?
 
I want to increase my vocal range. My current range is D2-A4.

I want to ask Screamin_Demon_Auz if exercises can really affect your range drastically. I don't mean one note up but like a minimum of three.

Did exercises pay off for you? What was your range before and what's your current one? Also, how much time would it take (assuming one is committed to exercising) to notice any major changes?
 
hey guys im new to this
my friend is in a band
www.myspace.com/signalthefiringsquad
he said not to inhale when you do squeels
so ive sterted doing them exhailing
the only thing is that it doesnt sound like a clean brreeeee
its brroiii haahahah
weird aye
anyways i was wondering if anyones got any pointers?
cheers :chug:
 
sleepy and nerdy....not good worRAB to define the voice if youre looking for help you gotta be specific. Or post a sample.


If by nerdy you mean nasal, then theres a thread open about that right now with some advice in it.
 
Okay i have a question. I'm the singer and guitarist in a band. I can do both pretty well. The thing is, i am considering of buying a mic. To practice at home. So my questions are:

1. Is practicing with a mic at home really that useful? Will there be a big progress in my voice? Note that i only practice with my band for about 1 hour per week. The other time i'm singing without a mic.

2. I will be connecting the mic to my laptop. Will i be needing an amp or something?? I will be going for cheaper models. Cheaper than SM58..

Any other suggestions welcomed. Thanks.
 
Update: I just realized later tonight that I'm really tired and my vocal muscles are really fatigued. It's possible that that might have something to do with it. I've been practicing my clean singing pretty heavy duty for the past couple of weeks and I guess it's starting to show itself. Anyway, I'd still like advice please, because I may be wrong. But I'm gonna give my vocal muscles a bit of a breather for a week or so and then try again.
 
You probably havent done enough high pitch work to handle it. When youre doing alot of forceful singing/screaming then all of that will make the corRAB swell to some degree. If you've ever had any muscle swell up, you'll remember that you naturally lose flexibility. At higher pitch your corRAB are thinner. So youre trying to take a swollen tissue and stretch it further which is hard enough, but then youre adding resistance to it by the air pushed against it. This is why I always stress that people should do more true singing as a means to workout because screaming doesn't allow enough time to work the tissue out. It leaRAB to heat and dryness and swelling and bowing too quickly. Some people can work through it naturally. Some can't.

If youre cracking then youre either using a high tense larynx and thus partially blocking proper airflow and creating an imbalance, or your corRAB are fatigued to some degree for some reason.
 
ok this is what i did to tell u the truth i dont kno if it helped but.. just listen... ok first of all u gotta work on ur falsetto voice which is like ur really high pitched voice... like u kno that voice when ur on helium... well its like that, see what i did was i kept singin in that voice, like well screamin day after day just drinkin tons of water... and i powered it up alot... and i mean u cant just slack of on it... u gotta push urself.. and then like start raising ur voice like if u were arguin with some1 like u gotta like let it out just everythin... like all u got... just like if u were havin a tempertantrum lol... its really weird but thats how i did it... like i worked on the falsetto voice adn then i startin workin on raising my normal voice higher and higher until it finally broke loose... adn now i can scream like zao... underoath as i lay dyin throwdown...i cant really explain it... but just keep drinkin water while workin on the falsetto and it has to be warm water... so i dont kno try it like that... see what happens it worked for me...
 
Hey Merk,

I've noticed that ever sense I've started doing punk vocals, I can't hardcore scream like I used to. When I try, it doesn't as good as it used to, and even that only lasted for about 2 minutes. Back when singing and hardcore was all I did, I could scream for about 30 minutes straight.. now I'm going faint after a minute and a half. Is this because of the punk vocals? If so, how can I do punk vocals "correctly" so I don't damage my voice further? Right now I'm just doing the whole yelling, and don't give a **** kind of thing.. what should I be doing? And also, how can I get my hardcore voice back? Cause my banRAB wants me to do punk type stuff, but scream too. [Kinda like leftover crack kinda stuff.] Thanks much.
 
Oh. Haha, well, I'm definitely doing that. Maybe I am straining, it's not like I'm pushing harder but it feels like something in my throat is rising.. advice appreciated.
 
Yeah I'm working on adding more support to it to help with the power, I think after I practice some more I'll be able to do that. I was able to do this over and over again without anything happening to my throat as far as pain, dryness, or anything like that, I was able to sing regularly after doing it as well. In fact it's easier for me to do this than sing regularly.

It feels good seeing progress after working so hard at it haha. Thanks for the help.
 
Thanks yee.

Also, I've been noticing I've been coughing up a lot more mucus than usual (also, I've been sick for a bit). Could my singing have anything to do with that?
 
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