The 250 greatest cartoon series, or something like that

Really, first off, if you're trying to argue how series were perceived in America, Speed Racer (The original, not the Nick Toons one) is not only toted as a bad series in the US, but probably demonstrates a standard for bad series in terms of presentation, translation and scene cutting. You simply can't claim that the high quality Gundam original series we got in the US can get defeated by that flaming pile of garbage Speed Racer the US had. It was bad for the time it premiered in the US and it's still bad today.

If you want to take this on a Global level, its well known Gundam is to Japan as Starwars was to the US. It helped to DEFINE what animation was. It helped to DEFINE the "Big Robots destroy things" type series. It set a very high standard that is so loft, Bandai is still trying to create another Gundam series that captures the audiance in the compelling way that series did.

Even looking at the list from a boarder, US Only point of view, it's hard to even stomach where they stuck Gundam on there. Grouping ALL Gundams together just isn't cool especailly when you have real winners like Gundam Wing and real losers like G Gundam. Even that beign said, if we're talking strictly US, the original Gundam series itself wasn't precieved nearly as well as Gundam Wing was.

Mind you, I'm only picking out Gundam from this list because thats what you rebuttled with. I could probably make a comprehensive list of problems with the list, but frankly, it's a waste of time. The list just isn't that good.
 
It is true that the original Speed Racer (or Go, Mach, Go-Go-Go! in Japan) was largely known in the U.S. for it's general campiness, but the fact of the matter is that more mainstream Americans know about Speed Racer than they do Gundam. Only geeks like us follow the Gundam scene. You could show a bunch of average Joes and Janes a picture of Speed Racer, and at least half of them would know who that is, but show them a picture of a Gundam, and they would just say something like, "That's a robot, right? Is that Voltron?"

How bad the original SR series was is irrelvevant. Speed Racer is more well known here in the States, bad or not.
 
Charley Says was a series of British infomercials about a cat and a boy who teach children basic saftey guidelines (don't play in the kitchen, don't jump about near rivers, don't talk to dodgy blokes who want to show you their puppies, etc).

As far as I can tell, the only reason it made this list is that - like I said earlier - it made Channel 4's top 100.
 
Technically, you can call them series in the sense that classic theatrical shorts were usually divided on series by characters. For example, Disney cartoons always started with "A Cartoon", so people could assume the name of the series was the name of the character as well. The only exceptions were the one-shots (a.k.a. Silly Symphonies).

As for Schoolhouse Rock, well, just because they are filler segments doesn't make them any less of a cartoon, which is what the list was going for, now does it?
 
If the list is going by individual shorts, then yeah, that makes more sense. I wasn't sure if they were or were not listing characters and shows together.
 
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