Suspected dealing next door neighbours

And if the police or other law enforcement agencies are looking at dealing with these people as some sort of operation, this little trick could lose the whole job with no arrests or prosecution being able to be made due to the loss of evidence and exposure of the suspects and their criminality through the media.
 
But as I said, inform the police first of the plan. And if that is the case then they should be gently guided away from this approach.

'But' you say, the Police aren't going to tell merabers of the public about on-going operations. Very true, but then they can use this secrecy to not do anything about anything. There has to be a time limit on how long criminals are allowed to operate openly and without hassle, otherwise what is the point of a policeforce? Or they have to trust the public, especially those directly affected by the crime, as in the OP.
 
Sorry John, but I completely disagree with you. Probably not surprisingly!

Your solution, because you aren't seeing police do what you think they should do, is to tell them a lie about a fictional friend with a baby and some needles going to the media. And you expect from the OP telling them that, they will "gently" guide him away from his fictional friend going to the media and hope that he isn't involved in the criminality and was looking for a tip-off that the police know about his actions.

Doing this would jeopardize any such investigation into the suspects.

Of course there isn't a time limit on how long criminals are allowed to operate openly and without hassle but that is tied in with all police actions having to be proportionate, legal and them being accountable for their actions or inaction's. Sometimes a criminal is allowed to continue their activity if it means the authorities are gaining further evidence to strengthen the prosecution to increase the chance of conviction and to provide evidence of more serious offences. But they have to be held accountable for their decisions to allow the criminal activity to continue.

But I don't see what that part has to do with the OP's complaint, as the information he has regarding potential drug use / supply at that address, is circumstantial and is not evidence of any offences.

I'm afraid I don't understand what you mean when you say " Or they have to trust the public, especially those directly affected by the crime, as in the OP".
 
Annoying, isn't it.
They did try to make up for their earlier mistake by calling out a dog van, as the crooks dropped a bag full of equipment when they legged it.
But even that didn't secure a conviction.
I believe the dog led them to a house, but the father gave the son an alibi.
 
I think slashed tires are as far as some will go. If any thing like that ever happened social services would get a call to take away there kid. Prob escalate. Fight fire with fire is sometimes your only choice.
 
no doubt that's the fault of the police also...





Door opening 40 times during a football match? I'm surprised you realised there was a match on between twitching the curtains!
I find it amusing and slightly sad that your letting something which is so far out of your control, bother you so much.

Mind you i'm speaking from a perspective where we don't have smack heaRAB because paramilitaries keep those sorts of drugs out.
 
Sorry to pick holes but the way you've explained this really grinRAB my gears, I doubt you hear 'absoutely everything no matter what it is' because the house is a new build.

If you do indeed hear 'absoutely everything no matter what it is' which I doubt, it'll be more likely to be because the house has been built using poor materials, little insulation, and little soundproofing.

My point concerning letting it bother you was an attempt to say 'allow the police to do their jobs and for 'proceedings' to take their course, rather than moaning about it for the next while which won't get you anywhere anyway.'
 
Unless your going through this then you have no idea. Always on edge, stressed and since the authorities are either slow or useless venting off on a forum and discussing with other is sometimes the only way just to chill a little bit
 
I have an idea based on what the OP has said and the fact that they are here posting about it.

Im not sure how being stressed, or allways on edge will help anyone, so I was suggesting that he tries to stop that, for his own comfort.

Seeing as you are going through it i'll leave this one for you as you clearly have all the answers.
 
Not really, as the OP was the one who went to the Old Bill with the information originally. He's hardly likely to be in cohorts with the gang by telling the police about them. The Police can't do anything without the help of the public. They have to engage with Joe Public, but that takes us back to the regular comment that they are now far too detached and have become a law enforcement body that is not wholly engaged with society. And that is the root cause of most of the problems that the Police have. The Police no longer trust the public and the public no longer trust the police. That is so wrong. And not that hard to change, but there is no will there to alter the status quo.



That seems to translate into because there is only the OPs statement that he fears there are drug dealers next door, the police are very unlikely to do anything. Perhaps if every neigrabroadour was persuaded to make a similar complaint it may get more attention. Or perhaps its just easier and faster for the OP to highlight the possible presence of them via the local press and hope they bugger off somewhere else to avoid the spotlight. Tough on somewhere else, but good for the OP.

I know the Police have a tough job and one I wouldn't particularly care to do, but from the public's point of view a lot of the problems they have are of their own making - by disengaging from the very people they are supposed to be protecting and who pay their wages.
 
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