Star Trek

I havent read all the posts here , but yours does strike a chord. Sci-Fi, to me, has always been about escapism and divorcing personal reality for couple of hours.
All the science in the world cannot answer all of the questions anyway.
 
As I understand it (having read it last night in the cinema's film magazine) they wanted a recording of Shatners voice on something that Spock Prime would hand to New Jim. But Shatner wasn't happy with just a voice cameo and wanted screen time as Kirk Prime (just like Nimoy).

So JJ then said "But Kirk's dead" to which Shatner replied "But some books have had him resurrected, you could reference them and make their explanation for my return part of official Trek history."

JJ however said that if he did that the film would be all about Kirk's resurrection and not the new crew so he didn't want to do that.

At which point Shatner said "Well I'm not just being a voice"...so he wasn't.
 
It's a good film. Exciting, thought-provoking and very funny.

Only the very end seemed misjudged (you'll know what I mean if you've seen it) - suddenly it was just a TV spin-off. And the end titles may a homage but they just look cheap.
 
Black holes don't work like that. The only major properties black holes show are spin and mass. The red spunk just turns whatever mass it finRAB into black holes. Black holes less than a certain mass actually evaporate so unless the combined mass of all the red muck and Nero's ship was more massive than the Moon then it wouldn't have even survived! (Not that I would expect the writers to ever go into such detail anyway, but the point is that if you even poke the surface of their science and plot it crumbles like a rich tea biscuit in a brew).



Maybe so, but I doubt Spock ever saw an episode of Star Trek so he wouldn't know that, would he :p?



Meh, that's no fun!



The point I was trying to make was that in all other Star Trek films we see the warp engines and the like. You remember the sets yourself. No engines here. The look just seemed all wrong for me. The Kelvin's engine room was actually filmed in a power plant, and the Enterprise's very similar, whereas if you were going to update the look (and obviously they should, I mean, it looked plain ridiculous in the Mirror Universe episode of Enterprise when they tried to make out the future ships actually looked like that!) then wouldn't it make sense to make it look like a modern day particle accelerator? After all, basically that's what's supposed to power the ship.

And the insignias. Yes the Enterprise one looks cooler but I just think that they didn't even know about it and that annoys me that they should be so sloppy in their research. Or maybe it was different and I couldn't see it properly for the all the lens flare.



Meh! No fair. I forgot about that episode of Enterprise. Ok, I'll give you that, although as someone trying to learn a language as far removed from English as you'll get on this planet (Japanese) I maintain that she would not have been able to speak three different dialects with such little exposure.




I wouldn't have been unhappy had they just not even tried to tie it in with the other continuity. If this film were supposed to override everything else it doesn't take away my enjoyment of the other series and movies (the ropey plots, cardboard sets and Wesley Crusher do that already :p) but it was so half heartedly done. Either do a Casino Royale/Batman Begins and reboot it clean and forget what went before, or do an actual origin story that doesn't involve this time travel nonsense. Do a Starfleet Academy movie. Do a "Kirk becoming captain/first mission" movie (after all we never got that in the series). I don't mind bending the continuity for the sake of telling a decent story (Khan already knowing Chekov in TWoK, all of Enterprise) but here it comes accross that they did it to get out of doing their research and that is what I don't like about it.
 
Well I can't complain about polt holes too much as they have basically pressed a reset button on the whole of Star Trek.

I was disappointed that the plot involved a crazed person connected to Romulus (i.e. exactly like Nemesis) and time travel (yet again).

There were some plot holes that were irritating.

1. Spock EJECTING Kirk from the ship. Ejecting???? Surely it would be simpler and safer to just put him in the brig?

2. Kirk's pod landing near where old Spock is. Even if it was the nearest class M planet, how likely is it he'd be near him? It's like falling to somewhere on Earth and just happening to be a few miles from, say, the White House!

3. How exactly did Kirk - someone who hadn't even graduated from the academy and was suspended - manage to become captain of the Enterprise? Captain Pike was being held captive and Spock had stood down. Kirk was a cadet - or possibly Ensign. So was the ship devoid of any command level crew? Were there no leitenants or commanders on the whole ship?

4. Despite the "reset button" being used, it would seem that Earth's planetary defences are still - NIL!! Only the Enterprise is there. I know that the "armada" was destroyed, but are there no satelites, no command stucture left?

5. During said encounter, we see cadets at the academy wandering around like headless chickens. Weren't the cadets drafted into the armada? Why are they there?
 
I thought it was great. Well thought out the way the characters were introduced. I did wonder when Simon Pegg was going to appear though. At one point I wondered if I imagined that Simon Pegg was in it. He didnt appear until about an hour and a half in.
 
I thought that myself during one scene where if I recall the camera moved outside from the bridge and it appeared to be underneath the saucer.

I did think it was nice having actually windows instead of a view screen in the bridge myself too. :)
 
It's not a coincidence where they landed on the surface. In both cases it made sense for them to be on the point of the surface closest to Vulcan near the time of the implosion.



Because he was appointed acting First Officer by Captain Pike just before he left, to replace Spock who was acting Captain. That put him next in line when Spock stepped down. When Pike did that, Kirk had just saved the entire ship by warning about the ambush that destroyed all the other ships. Pike had always been supportive of him, believed he had great potential, encouraged him to join Star Fleet, and predicted that he would rise fast to become a captain, all due to his respect for his father. Furthermore the crew on the new vessel was almost entirely cadets, so there were few there with any seniority to speak of anyway. For all those reasons it was not out of character for Pike to take the unusual step of advancing him to fill the void of first officer after he saved the ship. Spock wasn't thinking clearly when he recused himself, and may not have realized that Kirk hadn't formally been removed from the chain of command.



If it operates like a present day academy, then it would have multiple classes concurrently. They may only have drafted classes of cadets who had completed enough years of their training to be effective.
 
Saw this today. Excellent film and really enjoyable.
I tried not to get too excited about films as I am disappointed so often (eg Dark Knight) but I did get my hopes up for for this one and it exceeded all my expectations.
So glad I saw it at the cinema and not on DVD.
 
Would you get a good quality picture if you connected the PC to a big screen TV and used it as a monitor. The reason Im asking is because im trying to decide whether to buy a blu ray player or a a new desktop PC with a Blu Ray player and then to connect the PC to my 42" lcd TV to watch Blu Ray movies. I just dont know if the picture quality will be the same as if I bought a stand alone Blu Ray player???
 
Indiana Jones once said, "Well, the way you're sinking your teeth into those wubble-u's, I should think maybe Eastern Ukraine"

Perhaps that's where Chekov is from. It would have been in the USSR at the the time of TOS.
 
In which case he would have been given command of engineering (once the initial 'who the heck are you' moment was over) on the basis that he is a commissioned Starfleet engineer and the rest of the crew is virtually all cadets.

I didn't see Kirk being sworn in as first officier and being given his command codes, or being sworn in as captain either. Either these events happened off-camera or the computer automatically logs changes in the command structure and transfers in that persons command codes.
 
Enjoyable but..

Can't believe they stole the plot of the last Trek movie - Romulan with a chip on his shoulder blowing up planets. At least in Nemesis you had someone cool like Shinzon, here we have some dick with bad tattoos.:confused:

Doubt there was a single Star Trek fan in the boardroom when they approved this plot.
 
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