South Park - "Mysterion Rises" - Talkback [11/3]

If you count the actual flight as a Neverending Story reference, that still leaves the song and [strike]Cartman[/strike] The Coon's giggle/roar scene which clearly reference Totoro.
 
Totally agree (I never liked the idea of him being a new baby Kenny everytime he died, and always assumed that was just a theory one of the boys came up with to explain why Kenny always comes back to life...now, unless it's addressed in the next episode, I'm going to assume that the "new baby" gag was a theory of Kenny's instead).

Last week's ep was a bit of a let-down for me, this week's ep was freaking awesome and did not disappoint at all. I love the character development we got here for Kenny-and feel really bad for him as well.

This is easily one of my favorite episodes of this show, and I can't wait to see what they do next week.
 
If Kenny's parents just kept having new babies and named them Kenny I wonder how the babies would have been able to age so fast. But I wonder if the frequent babies would have been the reason for Kenny's parents being so poor.

Then again, maybe this Kenny was their last baby and this particular Kenny keeps coming back from the dead with the memory of others being wiped.

It's interesting how his parents didn't seem to know that Kenny is Mysterion. I assume they would have found out, either by being told from the citizens of South Park who saw him unmask himself, or by having to get Kenny out of jail for being Mysterion.
 
^ok now you guys are just taking south park WAY too seriously. Honestly these are just throw away a gag's; don't try to analyze them. You're trying to put A LOT more thought into these gag's than the writers themselves did (Sure they make clever political messages, but they didn't think of stuff like kenney's death way ahead of time, they just make whatever joke seems funny at the time). Sure i call it retcon, but really, I just found it to be a clever gag more than anything else. With south park Continuity should be taken with a hefty amount of salt, as comdey will always come first and the wirters are more than willing to disregard continuity for its sake.
 
That may be true, but then why do we have episodes like 200 and 201 which used it's continuity to it's full extent. I think Matt and Trey can be very continuity heavy when they want to be.
 
oh to be sure, but like i said comedy comes FIRST(making a call back to previous episodes is a great way to make a joke)... if Matt and Tray had to make the choice between maintaining strict continuity and making a brilliant joke, i'm sure they'd take the joke. Do you really think they thought about all the issues with kenny just being reborn over and over again? You really think they bother to think of the contradicting elements that come up with this latest twist on Kenny? No, they just went a long with it because they new it would be funny.

and a don't think i'll continue with this line of discussion though... like i said this is not something that was ever meant to take seriously; It's just supposed to be funny. The only thing i feel that's worth taking seriously is the political messages that they occasionally make, since their the writers are really trying to say something.
 
If South Park does another 3 parter in the future, I like it to be a take off of Star Wars or Harry Potter or Back to the Future.
 
I'm surprised how much I liked this episode because A) I didn't really like the original Coon episode much and B) most of their two/three-parters run out of steam 2/3 of the way into it. But right now it still has my full attention. Maybe even more so than at the end of the first episode. I think they were smart to do most of the BP/Hindsight jokes in part 1, leaving plenty of room to go into Cthulhu and Mysterion in part 2. They don't keep retreading the same ground. Hopefully part 3 has more surprises in store.
 
Despite the significance of the Kenny storyline this, to me, feels like Matt and Trey didn't have very many ideas this time and just decided to stretch out one of them. Nothing in "Coon 2" indicated this was going to be as long as it's turned out to be. When "Imaginationland" started up you knew you were in for a special one.


South Park could do them better. (Except for Star Wars; that's been satirized into the ground by now.)
 
Actually that was "Cherokee Hair Tampons". "Cartmanland" was the one where Kenny died while riding in Cartman's theme park and Kenny's parents sued Cartman because of that and Catman said "But he dies all the time!"

As for whether or not the whole "Cartman Joins Nambla" plot point of Kennys keep getting born to replace the old Kenny, I always thought of that as a joke. Besides in "Cartman's Mom Is Still A Dirty Slut" he just rejunivates at the very beginning of the episode out of nowhere and no one seems to notice. I think it makes more sense Kenny just dies and then just comes back. Maybe the process changed some though ever since "Kenny Dies" where he died for a whole season before coming back and since then he's died far less fequently.



They aren't going to have a trilogy making fun of a specific movie as the plot. They even made fun of that in the DVD for Imaginationland, lampooning how Family Guy did that for Star Wars.




Well to be fair when I first saw "Imagiationland" I thought it would just be one episode until the very end when I realized they couldn't wrap up every little plot in the last 5 minutes. And actually most of the two parters were never intended to be two parters. Sometimes they kind of had to continue the storyline (like "Cartman's Mom...") other times they had too much plot that couldn't be wrapped up at the end ("Do The Hanidcapped Go To Hell?" and "Go God Go") and other times they do it to stall for time to argue over certain points ("Cartoon Wars" was mainly extended so they could try and convince the network to show the image of Muhammad in the next episode which still didn't happen). Though "Imagiationland" was special since that was actually the original idea for the second movie and they made it into episodes since they didn't have any other ideas for episodes during season 11 at that time. Of course this three parter seems to have been in the works for awhile too if that clip of the Chutulu creatures from the last half season is any indication.
 
Matt and Trey could tie the Kenny is reborn plot in. Perhaps Kenny's parents made a deal with the Chutulu, that everytime he dies his soul returns to his mother, she gives birth to a new baby with a parka, she puts it to bed and it grows up overnight. And everyone remembers him dying, they just don't care as they know he will always come back.
 
Well, this is only speculation, but there's a distinct possibility that part 3 could involve...
Chef's parents, who have been involved in Kenny-related spirituality before, and perhaps we could even see an appearance from Darth Chef, which would be one of the last "loose ends" they could possibly tie up. The Cthulhu cult members were meeting in "Jim McElroy's house" -- Chef's real name was revealed as Jerome McElroy in "Chef Aid", so I doubt that's a coincidence.
(I think that's worth spoilering because even though the hint was in this episode, I bet a lot of people missed it, and it could be an awesome moment next week.)
 
Oh, right. I just remember Kyle being in a hospital, so I confused episodes.



That's possible too. Now if you could only work Rob Schneider into it.
 
OK guys, there's no need to bash or even bring Family Guy into this thread, so let's keep discussion on-topic, please.

This goes to people who bash the show as well as those who bring the show into the thread, because that counts as driving a thread off-topic. No tolerance after this post. Resume discussion now.
 
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