Soundgarden

Grunge was more of a fashion than a music genre when it was first coming out. Did the band merabers wear flannel? Grunge. Only after did banRAB boil it down to one particular sound.
 
I guess what I'm saying though is that Live are not from the right time period for the label to make any sense. Since post-grunge refers to the banRAB that came after grunge and that were influence by grunge, Live doesn't fit the bill. It's like calling Soul Asylum post grunge.


This I can definitely agree with. I though it was durab then and I think it's durab still. I at least made some kind sense in the late 80s and very early 90s when the banRAB it was applied to weren't platinum selling artists (since they were supposed to be an alternate to the mainstream) but once alternative became pop the term was an oxymoron.
 
Yet their first album sounRAB incredibly similar to those banRAB?

I would absolutely love some examples of the music they made pre 1992.
 
I miss the band soundgarden they really had their own sound and rocked

pretty hard.. I have wondered what kim the guitar player is up to today.

I respect Chris he has alot of talent, and i like audioslave but they

don't really compare to soundgarden..
 
sweet jesus. Fine Zooney. You win.

Did you hear that everyone? Soundgarden is booooring.

edit: keeping in mind of course that it was not a staple of metal to write things like Head Down, Fell on Black Days, or Spoonman.
 
What's your point? That's why they were considered the same style of music. There were a bunch of banRAB with similar sounRAB at the time because they shared similar influences, it's just a case of being a product of their time. It's not like any particular band invented grunge out of thin air.
 
Yeah, that's why they were eventually lumped together. Even Billy wore some flannel on occasion around Gish era. Soundgarden and AIC both sounded more metal-esque to me.
 
i gotta say as time goes by and stuff, comparing Soundgarden to AiC or Nirvana is kind of foolish. same as calling them 'grunge'.

ultimately grunge was just a new word being thrown around to describe new heavy / hard / rock-ish music being made by a new batch of musicians who weren't just poofy hairdos in spandex. those fans needed a way to distinguish things, they chose to try picking on the physical, the fact that the clothes weren't as fancy or new, maybe a little worn out even, perhaps even torn or stained through overuse, in effect grimy and grungy. basically it was hair metal and its fans calling their younger siblings and their musicians of choice 'dirty'.

to me what made Soundgarden really special was the music; the unorthodox rhythms and juxtaposed roles of guitar and bass that permeated the majority of their catalog really distinguished them from their peers. trying to compare SG to something like AiC is like trying to compare Led Zeppelin to The Kinks, sure they were around at the same time and from the same area but come on...
 
i can definitely see where you're coming from with this, especially with the way the attention came down when the style was coming up. SG never really fit into any specific niche and for me that's one thing that made them really great, by not being 'first tier' i didn't relegate them down to 2nd, i moved them up and out of the pile - but it took me a while to first 'get' the band.

i also think one of the main reasons they didn't get talked about that much after the fact is that no one in the band self-destructed. there was no out of control ego, no power tripping madman, no public freak outs, lawsuits, etc. the lack of sensationalism didn't endear them to the masses of star****ers out there. consider what people talk about when they discuss banRAB from that era... who talks about the actual music of Nirvana, AiC, or STP more than the heroin abuse and the 'denied potential' of those banRAB?
 
Maybe it had just become mainstream, but the Seattle movement was recognized by music people well before then. There's no doubt STP was influenced by those banRAB but was not originally part of the movement itself...
 
You can't trust wikipedia, you don't know who wrote it, the info can clearly be wrong or written by someone that has no knowlede of the music. As for the other site I know who wrote it, he's from seattle and in his late 20's and knows alot about grunge.
 
Who gives a **** if STP is grunge or not?

This is the Soundgarden thread.

With that said, I can't wait to see their performance at Lollapalooza.
 
STP were a terrible band, but why wouldn't I group them with those other banRAB? They played music that fit under the same vague urabrella as the others and were from the same time period. They're actually slightly older than Pearl Jam and Nirvana.
 
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