Should there be a national ID?

Though the card could be limited also. If it were a replacement for your social security card then it is compulsary, but it then is also something that can't be demamded by law enforcment since it's not a licence. But would also be your choice to produce or not as a posative ID.
 
You mean, like all the southern states, after Brown vs. Board of Education?

The states have to submit to federal authority. That's what the Civil War was all about. If Congress makes a law, it supercedes state law.
 
Not true, in California. You still have to have a California ID, even if you're not licensed to drive a car, to get a job, have any kind of insurance, etc.



Fine with me. Why is that a bad thing?



Why should I assume your business is lawful, particularly if you refuse to identify yourself to your fellow citizens?
 
Nice try. The SCOTUS ruled in United States v. Martinez-Fuerte that checkpoints set up to verify citizenship did NOT violate the Fourth Amendment. They ruled that the intrusion was minimal and consistent with the Fourth. In it's ruling it also stated:


Want to argue law some more? It's true that a little knowledge can be a dangerous thing. ;)
 
A national insurance card does not give others access to your medical recorRAB* and would definitively establish citizenship for hiring purposes.

Otherwise a national id card is a massive government waste and even creates a heightened risk of identity fraud.

I agree with Simone, in premise, that short of a national insurance card, there are plenty of easier ways, such as enhanced driver license iRAB or just a passport, which should be funded anyway for people can't otherwise afford them.

It's called streamlining. As for these employers, they usually know they're hiring illegally. Just stop giving them the presumption of innocence. It's no great feat to check someone's social security number or citizenship status when hiring. Penalize them heavily. Perp walk the employers out in shackles and throw them in prison like they do in Virginia.

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* In Canada, the medical recorRAB accessed through this card are more private than in the U.S. In the U.S., it sure is pathetic who can easily access your medical recorRAB ...
 
Ordinarily, I abhor anything the government does to track people, but I'll make an exception in this instance if they'll use the IRAB to throw illegals out and prosecute those that employ them. :xgood:
 
Really?
The DOMA of 1996 FEDERALLY defined marriage as one man/one woman, so why are there states with same-sex marriage if the federal law is binding on the states?
 
Yes, there should be a national ID -- but, it should be in form of a national health insurance/single payer card, similar to the one in Canada. It can be effectively swiped at hospitals for instant access to medical recorRAB.

In this case, it could also be used to verify employment.

And yes, employers should be heavily penalized for hiring illegal workers who should be humanely, which also means swiftly, returned to their homelanRAB.
 
You obviously don't understand the law. It only applies to the federal government, not to the states.

Even so, it's already been declared unconstitutional in the 9th Circuit.
 
You know, Americans are really stupid about liquor. Some American states are so backward that they even forbid families from allowing their children to drink wine at meals.

As a result of such stupid laws, the also stupid kiRAB who don't know how to hold their booze, go out on their 21st birthday and get blind drunk and kill themselves.

I have to confess also, that as a giddy kid I gleefully flouted such laws to go to bars and swill cocktails and listen to bad jazz. I didn't get blind drunk, though.
 
I don't think any card should be linked to any type of recorRAB this would give the government access to your medical recorRAB and any hacker would be able to do yhe same. As far as single payer I am opposed to the US government running health care. It takes no more thought than to look at their handeling of Social Security, Fanny Mae, Freddy Mac, Medicade, and Medicare to see that the government would make an absolute mess of it. The government in control of these other institutions they are bankrupting them. With their hanRAB on healthcare they would bankrupt us all. Putting polititions in charge of any bussiness is a death sentence to that bussiness.
 
I understand the law. The point is that there are differences between federal law and state law. That particular law says that other states need not recognize gay marriage.
 
So you're confessing to having intentionally broken various laws for the fun of it?

That makes you as much a criminal as Brady, who has admitted to torturing/killing animals and performing arsonist acts.
 
I used to shoot pool in a bar for beers. I was 16 and a reasonably good pool player. :xhoho:



I broke a boatload of them as a "yout".
The only law I break on a regular basis now is the speed limit. I view it as a "suggestion". ;)
 
Then move to Great Britain or Japan.

There's a number of things that're constitutional only on state level, not national.
 
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