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You are totally spot on there. It constantly amazes Amercians especially those from the same locality Dr House is supposed to be from. Credit to Laurie and his voice coach.
Russell Crowe in Robin Hood = Dick Van Dyke in Mary Poppins
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deutschesprache38
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His accent seemed to jump from Scottish, Welsh and Irish and various points in the film, but apart from that it was a really great film and I thoroughly enjoyed it
Robin Hood 2010 is probably the better film but for me Prince of Thieves is always wins cos it's an old Childhood favourite that I never get enough of.
Robin Hood 2010 is probably the better film but for me Prince of Thieves is always wins cos it's an old Childhood favourite that I never get enough of.
Brittany J.
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You are claiming outrage when in fact the shoe is on the other foot. Brits are taking disproportionate american roles. So what are you complaining about. Americans do fine with british accents when they are hired to do the job, whether its in bridget jones or in pirates or the Caribbean.
Btw i just remembered some bad american accents by brits, it really only happens much on british tv series though, the most galling example was on spooks, the last female blonde character playing an american couldn't decide what accent she had.. There was also a british political mini series/thriller with dubious accents as well. The fact that you didn't know how many brits work in american tv and film discredits you because you didn't realize how things balance out in reality, so your small minded concentration on this issue is simply based on nothing.
Btw i just remembered some bad american accents by brits, it really only happens much on british tv series though, the most galling example was on spooks, the last female blonde character playing an american couldn't decide what accent she had.. There was also a british political mini series/thriller with dubious accents as well. The fact that you didn't know how many brits work in american tv and film discredits you because you didn't realize how things balance out in reality, so your small minded concentration on this issue is simply based on nothing.
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So my opinions are not valid just because he had some good reviews? I personally have never seen anything good from Russell Crowe. We all are going to have different tastes in everything.
I feel the same way about Christian Bale, I seriously think he can not act. The only reason he gets hired is because of his looks.
Gary Oldman is an entirely different kind of animal, and for me is just about the finest British actor around, everything he does is brilliant.
But now I will likely get panned by somebody who disagrees with MY OPINION! Instead of them just stating its my opinion and they dont see it that way, they would rather try to rubbish my opinion. And it is these kind of people that obviously dont understand what a forum is all about, this is a place to voice opinions, and just because other people's opinions differ from there's they try to turn it into something else.
I only came onto this thread to voice my opinions on Russell Crowe being the wrong choice for Robin Hood, because I personally feel that British cult heroes should be played by British actors and actresses. Many people would agree with this. There are many reasons for this. An American, Canadian or Australian or indeed any foreigner does not grasp our context, and they end up turning something so simple to understand and making it difficult. A British actor would grasp the context and fully understand how something is supposed to be said, and no matter how much direction or how many dialect classes someone takes certain things lose something in translation. Hence why nobody other than us Brits understand that the word "******" is a derogatory statement. foreigners throw it around without fully understanding it. That is my whole point. To get the full context and understanding of a British role you need a British performer in that role.
I understand that more Brits are successful in America. The reason for this is because so much of American slang, and pop culture makes it over here so we have the edge. However a lot of our slang and pop culture never makes it over to America, hence they can never fully understand how to play Brits in movies or TV.
I feel the same way about Christian Bale, I seriously think he can not act. The only reason he gets hired is because of his looks.
Gary Oldman is an entirely different kind of animal, and for me is just about the finest British actor around, everything he does is brilliant.
But now I will likely get panned by somebody who disagrees with MY OPINION! Instead of them just stating its my opinion and they dont see it that way, they would rather try to rubbish my opinion. And it is these kind of people that obviously dont understand what a forum is all about, this is a place to voice opinions, and just because other people's opinions differ from there's they try to turn it into something else.
I only came onto this thread to voice my opinions on Russell Crowe being the wrong choice for Robin Hood, because I personally feel that British cult heroes should be played by British actors and actresses. Many people would agree with this. There are many reasons for this. An American, Canadian or Australian or indeed any foreigner does not grasp our context, and they end up turning something so simple to understand and making it difficult. A British actor would grasp the context and fully understand how something is supposed to be said, and no matter how much direction or how many dialect classes someone takes certain things lose something in translation. Hence why nobody other than us Brits understand that the word "******" is a derogatory statement. foreigners throw it around without fully understanding it. That is my whole point. To get the full context and understanding of a British role you need a British performer in that role.
I understand that more Brits are successful in America. The reason for this is because so much of American slang, and pop culture makes it over here so we have the edge. However a lot of our slang and pop culture never makes it over to America, hence they can never fully understand how to play Brits in movies or TV.
So you're saying that acting doesn't really matter, what really counts is environment and upbringing? If so, does that mean only lesbians can play lesbians? Only doctors can play doctors? Only cops can play cops? Or are you going to continue to persist in the notion that uniquely only Brits can play Brits - in all the other examples I mention acting's what really counts?
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RosaInCali4nia
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No I am not saying that at all. I am saying that no matter how good of an actor someone might be something always gets lost in translation. I said nothing about limiting roles by speciality. It is a plain simple fact that other nationalities do not understand each other's context. You could say something here that is completely derogatory and get blasted for it. However you go to America and say the same thing and they wont get it. A part of understanding a role is the context. Anyone can deliver a line, but depending on nationality that line is going to mean something else and they will deliver it how it is meant in their country making it sound off.
Try reading what I say next time, as I dont recall saying anything about only doctors playing doctors or cops playing cops.
Try reading what I say next time, as I dont recall saying anything about only doctors playing doctors or cops playing cops.
TwilightTwit<3
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That is anything but a fact. It's a blinkered opinion that is nothing more than xenophobic twaddle.
No, you said only Brits could play Brits, which is equally facile and boneheaded and just self-evidently wrong.
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No, you said only Brits could play Brits, which is equally facile and boneheaded and just self-evidently wrong.
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