Return of the Jedi: Why does Darth Vader Die???

Re. the Leia remembering her mother thing...

In ROTJ she says 'Just...images, really. Feelings.'

images could mean that Bail Organa showed her one of those moving photo things (like the ones in Padme's parents' house in the scene cut out from AOTC).

ps. I still have a pet theory Padme didn't die, but was replaced by a clone at the last minute. :o
 
The moving photo theory works too.

The clone thing doesn't... :)

She died stupidly though, didn't she? Of a broken heart, literally :rolleyes: Surely if that was the case, her babies would have kept her going!!

Anakin should've at least Force Pushed her off a cliff first, then she could've died from internal bleeding, smashed organs, something practical...!
 
Maybe it was a long term disease he was suffering from like Emphasima mixed with a bit of Asthma,

Plus we never his sexual orientation anything could have has happened :eek:
 
For Vader dying, I've heard a few theories;

1. The lightning from the Emperor struck the exposed circuits in Vader's severed hand and this destroyed his suit.

2. When Vader chucks the Emperor down the chute, this blue energy is thrown back up and engulfs Vader. This was radiation from the reactor and this killed him.

3. Vader was "the chosen one" and it was his destiny to destroy the Sith. He was brought into existence by the force, a miracle birth, for this purpose. Once it was complete, he simply was taken back to the force, his job complete.

4. After Obi-Wan dices Anakin and leaves him to burn, the Emperor shows up and lays a hand on Anakins' forehead. This was actually Palpatine using the powers he described earlier to use the force to keep him from dying. When Anakin killed the Emperor, he cut off the source of this power and began to slowly die.

I kinda have a preference to the last one, as it fits in with the powers Palpatine was talking about in episode 3. Option 3 also has a nice, mystic element to it, like Jesus returning to heaven after his work was done.

As for episodes 7, 8 and 9, George Lucas cleared up this fan rumour quite some years back. Apparently, he was once asked in an interview, shortly after Return of the Jedi was released, if he intended to make another Star Wars trilogy sometime in the future and he said yes. He was then asked if he intened to go back and make episodes 1, 2 and 3 and, again, he said yes. It was assumed he was referring to two deifferent trilogies when answering these two different questions, but in fact, he was only ever referrring to the prequels.

I have to say that I would not want them to make a 7, 8 and 9. Not because I'd be worried that they'd be rubbish, but because episode 6 was a perfect end to the story. It still makes me sad to this day, watching the end of RotJ and knowing that Star Wars enRAB here and there is going to be no more, but that's exactly why there should be no more. It's a great end to a great story.
 
wrong wrong wrong, all the answers are wrong.
the real reason is that only the dark side of the force can cheat death, Vader returned to what is can only be described as the light side or moral side of the force thus rendering his ability to sustain life obsolite.

P.s
Vader is seen without the mask in Empire, this is described in the novel Shadow of the Empire. vader uses the dark side to try to breath but can only sustain this for a short while.
 
As you put it. The site is complete bulls*it.
It's been proven that 'Supershadow' has absolutely no connection to Lucas and is a liar when he claims that he's had cameos and everything. At one point he claimed that he gave Lucas the midichlorian concept. This statement made me realise it's complete bolloc*s.

I was fooled for about half a year and would regularly visit and even leave messages on his board around 2002-2003.

Don't believe it :rolleyes:
 
I think it's accepted that Darth Vader had to die, didn't he? He redeemed himself in Luke's eyes, but no one (audience or characters) would allow him to live happily ever after.

Seeing as Luke wasn't going to kill him, it had to be the Emperor (who always had that bit of power over him), but he was like 90 years old, so it wasn't going to be a violent killing.
 
I haven't visited Supershadow's site in about a year, but I too used to go there (mainly for the comments, I never believed his lies). He gradually got worse and worse, last I saw of it, he was claiming George Lucas was answering fan's questions daily :rolleyes:

I think there's a bit about him (real name Mickey Suttle) on Wiki (He got caught out inventing girlfrienRAB).
 
First the Emperor was toying with Luke but then he says "And now young Skywalker you will die," and it's after this that Vader grabs him, I reckon that the Emperor was using his most hardcore lightning at the point that Vader grabbed him.

If you look closely in the film there you can see Vader's skeleton being lit up by the Emperor's lightning strikes.

One of them hits the back of his neck and I guess it just buggers his suit up and he can't survive without it.
 
Yes I realised this. But I put my "huh?" comment in because if you actually read the sentence he wrote, it makes no sense whatsoever!
 
He was without his mask in that scene because that was his meditation chamber, and it had the technology to allow him to remove his breathing equipment.
 
Maybe we just have to accept that the prequels were illogical and crap...

As for why he died, wouldn't the force lightning damage his mechanical parts? Or, from a purely dramatic standpoint, there's no way he could be allowed to live.

The whole damn thing is ruined though, because they pasted pretty-boy Anakin over Sebastian Shaw at the end. The guy has two expressions!
 
As Vader said at the time, he was dying anyway. Seems obvious (to me) that the force-lightning had borked all the life-support stuff in Anakin's suit - which is why he was wheezing at that point. Luke took more lighting, but wasn't as badly hurt as he is more man than machine (neither twisted, nor evil etc.. ) ;)

From a story POV, Vader had to die, as the classic story is a story of redemption in the face of death.

EDIT: Just noticed Scrumdiddly said almost exactly the same stuff above. Damn yooooooooooooou.
 
please read my previous answer. i have read all the books after jedi , the books had to be ran past lucas due to the new trilogy and it states that the dark side keeps vader alive the suit helps him breath , when in the meditation chamber Vader is channeling vast ammounts of dark side to help breath without the mask, any doubts read shadows of the empire ,
 
I go with this one.

Also note that the force lightning is strong enough to show Vader's skeleton, but when Luke was getting hit by it the most it did was light up his teeth.

Mace's Windu's skeleton could also be seen when he got struck in Episode 3.
 
OK, I accept these as the reasons Darth dies now. To those of you in the know - thanks!

Here's my next question - and sorry if I seem like a pain in the arse with nowt better to do than pick holes in a classic film!

At the end of the digitally remastered ROTJ when Luke sees the three "ghosts" of Obi Wan, Yoda and Annakin Skywalker, Annakin's "ghost" is now played by Hayden Christiansen (sp?). In the old films it was the actor who played Darth with his mask off.

To me it would have made more sense to leave it as the older actor.

Why did George Lucas decide to change it to Hayden Christiansen? Was it just because he could?
 
yes you are right i remember that too.. he even talks about how his anger of Obi-Wan keeps him going and makes him stronger..

i think he sits crossed legged though as at that point Lucas didn't know Vader would loose his legs in the prequals

as to why Vader dies it's because he has gone back to the good side of the force and been redeemed by Luke.. unfortunately only the dark side can keep him alive.. he was saved by Luke and even though he knew that would kill him he still went back to the light side of the force
 
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