Rebirth of the Rebellion - Code Geass R2 Talkback (SPOILERS)

And I heard Lelouch likes stealing little girls. Even if this remains, Suzaku is a soldier all the same. Here's some food for thought from the character Colonel Mathieu in the Battle of Algiers.

"We aren't madmen or sadists, gentlemen. Those who call us Fascists today, forget the contribution that many of us made to the Resistance. Those who call us Nazis, don't know that among us there are survivors of Dachau and Buchenwald. We are soldiers and our only duty is to win. "

and

"Interrogation becomes a method when conducted in a manner so as always to obtain a result, or rather an answer. In practice, demonstrating a false humanitarianism only leaRAB to ridiculousness and impotence. I'm certain that all units will understand and react accordingly. "
 
So, I did some looking around and found the inconsistencies that Rob_TF referred to. I checked back on the episode to compare, and they actually do make sense:
Time count 3:58 - Sayoko's team has gone ahead and Rolo tells Lelouch he plans to meet up with Sayoko after securing Nunnally.

7:00 - Rolo's still looking for Nunnally.

7:30 - Miss Rohmeyer is trying to get Nunnally to evacuate. When she refuses to go, Miss Rohmeyer tells her that it was an order from Schneizel that government officials had to leave first.

9:30 - Nunnally is loaded onto one of two ships in the hangar. Miss Rohmeyer says they won't use any Knightmares to escort Nunnally as not to bring attention to the ship and make it a target. She also says that as soon as the Gefjun disturbers are deactivated, Nunnally's ship will launch.

10:00 - Sayoko frees Kallen and goes ahead.

10:30 - The Gefjun disturbers are deactivated.

18:10 - Rolo finRAB the ship with Miss Rohmeyer on it in the docking bay with some Knightmares ready to escort it.

19:20 - Sayoko finRAB Nunnally.

20:20 - Rolo is sitting in a Knightmare mid-air.

20:37 - Sayoko is standing with Nunnally on her ship.

20:41 - The pink light overtakes Miss Rohmeyer's ship.

21:40 - Rolo tells Lelouch that Nunnally is dead.

Nunnally's ship should have launched around 10:30. Eight minutes have passed by the time Rolo finRAB his ship. And then after Sayoko barges in on Nunnally, Miss Rohmeyer doesn't react. At all. Not to mention, there were supposed to be no Knightmares escorting Nunnally's ship and yet Rolo is in a Knightmare. There is also no indication that Sayoko and Rolo ever meet up.

So, it seems like Sayoko finRAB Nunnally's ship after freeing Kallen. That's when the Gefjun disturbers are disabled, so Nunnally's ship launches with Sayoko and co. on board. The ship Rolo finRAB is a decoy with Miss Rohmeyer on it. As a result, Nunnally's ship probably made it out of the blast radius while the decoy ship was the one that was taken out by FLEIJA. Rolo tells Lelouch that Nunnally is dead because he thinks that Nunnally was on that ship.
I wouldn't have thought it possible, but rewatching Turn 18 with these points in mind actually makes sense. Tricky.
 
Let me get this straight

Lelouch dies, with seemingly no one understanding his real motives...yet they expect us to be happy to see everyone all giggly at the wedding of the worst couple in the show?

...It's still early but- I KNEW IT!!!
 
It has 8, plenty of time to do a lot. I am sure they will give us the right answers. Also I am surprised nobody commented about the random Charles appearance, he is looking smug as ever. Then again, so does Schneizel, with 'All the CarRAB' he has...so I again have to wonder who will be the true final baddy.
 
It's a snub to Suzaku I think. Suzaku has since the start of the season been constantly trying to remove anything that would give Lelouch strength and actively threaten his plans. What Lelouch has done is the same- he's removed the very people Suzaku has claimed he was fighting for and they all seem to have left willingly. Suzaku now has the situation where even if he makes Knight of One, he'd be ruling a Japan full of arrogant Britannians only. It also means the Japanese that chose to leave are residing somewhere currently safe from Britannian rule.

Suzaku has since the start been talking about how Zero isn't needed. What Japan has said here is 'Screw you, traitor. WE say he's needed!" Of course, should the truth of the Euphie incident come to light...
 
It seems to me that the series has been hinting that there is going to be something down the line between them, whether that means they become frienRAB again or are just able to tolerate each other's presence. Perhaps I'm just sappy, but I think that they have both been through so much and lost so much that they deserve to have that frienRABhip that was once so strong. Despite their actions, I don't consider either of them to be bad people and I want to see them reconcile in some form or another. That's why I'm especially looking forward to Turn 17.
I'd like to see that in action, honestly. Depending on how things in the next few episodes play out, I could see it happening, so it could be very interesting. On the other hand, I could also see Suzaku joining up with Lelouch first, which brings along Anya and Gino. Who knows?
 
well, she mentoned Nunaly, meaning she obviously got her memories back, she knew Lelouch's secret, she was a potential threat, he had to take care of her, for all he knew she was on her way to off Lelouch.
 
But there's a difference between telling the truth and telling the whole truth. Even if Suzaku's idealism was an attempt on his part to hide the truth from himself, that doesn't necessarily mean he didn't value any of his principles. Euphemia's plan for Japan prior to her death would have been the fulfillment of what he wanted. If that had succeeded, Suzaku would've stayed on as Euphemia's knight and the rebellion would've been over. In that situation, would Suzaku have regretted no longer having opportunities to die in battle? I'd say the answer is no.
 
Yeah, I know. The link I put up for others to check out a great site for spoilers on code geass.

What I posted is in quotes because its a comment from else where. Sorry, I didn't make that clear but I lazy. Sue Me.
 
I'm just glad next week should be much more satisfying...I laughed a little this time, but otherwise wasn't impressed at all and really felt things were being overdone. Easily leaving the worst for last. That is probably unfair to the creative team, but that's how I feel.


He's just too weird and only care about his toys. That was shown repeatedly, even when the engagement first came up. The deal was nothing outside of its political value. Milly finally got some initiative, in part because of Nina's criticism, and that was it.

I don't know...unless they are people in denial, maybe? Shirley, Kallen, C.C. and even Kaguya shippers I can understand, but Milly?

Just because a character has a crush, never acted upon, doesn't mean an entire subplot of romantic relationship has to be hinted at all along. I'm fine with just the couple of subtle indications that eventually showed up.

Why? Because it can just be a personal feeling which goes nowhere. That happens all the time in real life, for a dozen different reasons. Not every single person with a crush has to do something about it.

Lots of crushes lead absolutely nowhere in our world, so that's the least of the things wrong with this series.

As for Orange, people keep forgetting that Stages 10 and 11 show him alive. Whatever was planned long before that time is practically irrelevant, because he never died when the moment came. He ejected and was even picked up by the Code-R scientists.



I was just about to mention this too.

That sound episode track is the most blatant piece of evidence, but there are a couple of arabiguous hints in the show itself...like in Stage 15 when the two talk about her arranged marriage. Nothing comes out of it, but you can see Milly probably expected Lelouch to have more of a reaction.

The best way to describe this is that Milly never acted on the crush she had for Lelouch, aside from the Turn 12 antics...so they never had a chance because neither of them even tried. Their personalities, other events and worries just got in the way. And you know? I'm fine with that. Not every single crush neeRAB an entire subplot, just a couple of hints and, yes, it can lead nowhere.

And no, they certainly aren't cousins, so that's not a problem...

Oh well...poor Rivalz though.
 
well we all knew that Schneizel was an ass, so this is no surprise. LOL OUGI. Villeta is pregnant!? Ougi is already getting my worst father of the year award [after the emperor of course]. I didn't think he even knew how baby's were made.
http://randomc.maximum7.net/image/CODE%20GEASS/CODE%20GEASS%20R2%20-%2023%20-%20Large%2015.jpg
lovely outfit.

I've gotta agree with what was stated on Random Curiosity this morning
"I’m at the point where nothing that happened this episode really got me excited. I suspect it’s at least partially because I’ve been convinced that this’ll end in a trainwreck. Basically, I’m still curious to see what will happen, but the magic just isn’t there anymore."

Other than the part about 'nothing that happened this episode' [because I'm yet to see it], I think that the excitement Geass once had isn't there anymore. They've ran out of time and now are throwing everything together and hoping it flys. There's no real sparkle
 
I predict Anya going before both of them. There is a connection between her and Lelouch, we just don't know what. But I think if this connection is found out, which it will, and brought about she will be the first to leave. Gino may not, because in Aurthur's Knights wasn't it Mordred and Tristan who fought one another? So who knows...

And I think Gino puts on a happy-go-lucky front because of all the war and strife he has most likely seen, I imagine deep down he is very serious.
 
Hence why I said I was only dreading Nunnally's performance. She and Nina are really the only dub performances that I've been underwhelmed by. I can ignore Nina because I hate her anyway, but Nunnally is such an important character.

Meh, only time will tell I suppose.

EDIT:This, yes. Thank you
 
Yeah damn one more episode. Feels like we need like 4 to finish all stuff going on in 24. Code Geass has become my favorite anime series, i wish there was a 3rd season and finish it in a season 3 and not wrap it all up in one episode.
 
Hey, I love to hate Suzaku. Thats still a form of love, no?

And whatever happen to Aurthur the cat? Did Suzaku sell him out as well and after that cat saved his life as well?
 
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