Rebirth of the Rebellion - Code Geass R2 Talkback (SPOILERS)

This is the story of the episode. Events continue to push Lelouch down a path of loneliness, just as C.C. used to narrate. Lelouch has been literally stepped on and now Zero is again taking over. But there's no longer cocky assurance behind that mask, only sorrow. Now finally left with no one that he believes he can truly rely on, Lelouch is as alone as he has ever been in this series.

I'm afraid that I have to fall in the camp that isn't outraged at Suzaku. Lelouch's guilt over the past is so great that he didn't refut or try to explain even one accusation that Suzaku made against him. There was literally no other way Suzaku could react, considering that Lelouch's answers confirmed every one of his worst suspicions about him. Every single one.

In a twisted way, maybe it's good that things went wrong. Suzaku basically wanted Lelouch to end the war, which would have just kept the status quo assuming it was even possible to bring everything to an end at this point. But I doubt it. You can't mobilize half of the world into taking action and then slam on the brakes. Nevertheless, that doesn't change the indisputable personal tragedy of Lelouch.

I don't believe the ending should be interpreted as Suzaku reverting to his old ways already. Just the opposite. He's now being directly challenged on how he defines himself, first by Nina last episode and now by Schneizel. Yes, Schneizel now knows about Geass, but the real test is what he does with the Freyja. That wasn't anger in his voice at the end, it was doubt. Beyond even that, we have Charles plotting his "Ragnarok" operation. I still maintain that soon, Britannia's actions will become too incompatible with Suzaku's conscience.

The episode had all the right kinRAB of Geass content. Lots of drama, a little intrigue, and decent mecha action for a B story. Xing-Ke performed admirably, but the Tokyo battle will be the turning point that leaRAB into the final showdown with Charles and Britannia itself. With Lelouch, Todoh, Jeremiah, and the Holy Blades in town, I like the odRAB.

Grade: A
 
Yeah, I'm glad about that.

-When I saw Diethardt all fanboying over Schniezel, I seriously thought "YOU LITTLE SON OF A..."
-More GinoXKallen shipping (and SayokoXOrange shipping...my god did I just use those two in the same sentence?)
-So like, throught the episode, it was extremely hard for me to figure out who to root for. I mean, that had been happening for a while but this was the clincher. I mean, I want to root for Lelouch but he's being an uber-dick and I want to root for Gino and Kallen but they're being used by the numero-uno bad guy. I call mindf***
-Gino's new mech reminRAB me of Kamen Rider Gattack when he went into hyper mode (if you don't know who the kamen riders are, then fail for you)
-Whoa, whoa, are they trying to get us to have some form of respect for Nina now? (I just love her reactions when she realizes her jealously borab actually kills people)
-Nunnally, I'm sorry but please shut up.
-So anyone want to do the likelihood of living, I'm thinking...

Lelouch: 70%
Suzaku: 50%
C.C.: 5% (stupid extended preview)
Kallen: 50%
Nunally: 100% (No way are they screwing us over twice)
Tohdoh and Xing-Ke: 10% (They both have reasons to live and people they care about...That is why they must die)
Ougi: 30%
Orange: 75%
Gino: 50%
Anya 70%
Nina: 90% (who knows, maybe some random mech could accidently shoot the facility a la Flay...wait that means Lloyd would die too CURSES)
Student council: 100%
Villeta: 50% (Honestly Sunrise could go either way with her)
Schniezel: 5% (Sorry, his nuraber's basically up)
Diethardt: Meh, I'll go with 60%
 
saw the sub, OMG, "The United States of Japan" is the dummest sounding thing ive ever heard, i ready hate when Lelouch makes corny sounding proclamations.

Seeing as how The Brittanian Emperor (the Big Bad) treats Suzaku like his most trusted right hand, Suzaku is definately a villain, as usualy guys who work so closely with the main villain are usualy villains.
 
When I say insingficant, in comparision to someone like Leloush or Suzaku, it is not signficant enough to really matter who he is in a realtionship with. Of course every character is important in someway, but some are more important than others. Insiginficant character was the wrong wording, his personal life is insugnifcant. Sorry about that.

You are right through, he never went has far as James / Kojiro went with his encentric behavior. Which is hard to believe for a kiRAB show, but that is another topic. Lloyd has never crossed dress, more impordantly cross dressed and enjoyed it, kissed a guy (see "Abra And The Psychic Showdown"), etc. like James / Kojiro.
 
Yeah, it also kind of makes Suzaku look like some normal chump when in my opinion he should be LeLouch's most threatening enemy after the Emperor. I don't particularly want Rollo overshadowing the Knights of the Round with constant use of deus ex machina powers, which is why I hope LeLouch defeats him or at least thinks of a creative way to even the scales against him.
 
It doesnt have to be about hipocrasy or anything, shes an enemy, and as a knight of rounRAB he has a duty to destroy britanias enemy's, and if he has to be ruthless and drug her to get info that he could use to get Zero than he should, she isnt exactly cooperating, but no, he has her in a fancy dress in a glass cage, what the hell is that anyway?, why doesnt he have her rotting in a dugeon or dead or something, geez.

and his reasons are what, "im, i dont wanna be a bad guy like Lelouch", come on!, its a war and kellen has almost killed him and his frienRAB in mech battles quite a few times, HE OWES HER NOTHING, he is an extremely crappy soldier.
 
Well, I might be slightly insane. Just slightly...

And no, I shall never get over the incompetence of that Russian commander who should have died by now. LeLouch has shown great talent in knowing when to push a battle and when to retreat.



I hope your right, hellcat. That way I can scream out "THERE CAN ONLY BE ONE" at the end of this anime.



We know that geass does not alter a person's basic personality considering how much Euphie fought her command.
 
Code Geass Parody: Episode 19

Darkness may come before dawn, but in the meantime absurdity might as well have a field day

*Cue He-Man music*
MALE VOICES: CODE GEASS!
GENERIC NARRATOR: LELOUCH OF THE REBELLLLIOOOOONNNNN!
LELOUCH: I am Lelouch, Prince of Britannia, defender of my own enlightened self-interest. This is C.C., my amnesiac friend.
C.C. AAAAAAAH, I'M SORRY! I DON'T DESERVE TO LIVE!
LELOUCH: *ahem* Fabulous secrets are revealed to me when I turn on my sexy voice and say "LELOUCH BRITANNIA COMMANRAB YOU!"
****LIGHTNING FLASHES, THUNDER ROARS****
LELOUCH: I AAAAAAAAAAMMMMMM ZZZZZZZEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
C.C. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!
LELOUCH: Unlike last season, C.C. is wearing real clothes. And I have become Zero! The greatest liar in the universe! Incidentally, Usopp is my favorite character in One Piece.
GENERIC NARRATOR: *whispering* Psst, stay on message......
LELOUCH: Only a few others know my secret. My hot ally Kallen, my deluded fake brother Rolo, my ninja maid Sayako, my self-righteous former friend Suzaku, my devious brother Schneizel, my monster of a father...
*music stops*
LELOUCH: Come to think of it, things could really blow up in my face at this rate.

GENERIC NARRATOR: LAST TIME, ON CODE GEASS!

*FREIJA EXPLODES*
LELOUCH: I DIDN'T MEAN IT! OH GOD, I DIDN'T MEAN IT! IT WAS A FIGURE OF SPEECH!

KALLEN: OH MY GOD, THEY KILLED NUNALLY!
GEASS WRITERS: WE'RE BASTARRAB!

****Theme Song****

LELOUCH: *sobbing* There was a borab all along. How could this happen? How could I have known that my morality-obsessed enemy was telling the truth?

*awkward pause*

LELOUCH: ......Oh.

TODOH: Another borab like that, and we'll be annihilated! All units, withdraw and regroup!
LELOUCH: TODOH, I TOLD YOU TO SEARCH FOR NUNNALLY!
TODOH: Wait, Zero! We have a lot of casualties, we have to reorganize our forces--
LELOUCH: WHO CARES! DO AS I SAY!
TODOH: No.
LELOUCH: Yes!
TODOH: No.
LELOUCH: Yes!
TODOH: No.
LELOUCH: Yes!
TODOH: No.
LELOUCH: No!
TODOH: Ye--oh please, nice try.
LELOUCH: DAMMIT!

GENERIC NARRATOR: Later, at Lelouch's living quarters...

ROLO: Don't worry, you still have me! I'm definitely not worried that you're angry with me for failing to rescue her in time.
LELOUCH: Leave me alone.
ROLO: Gotta cheer him up...*ahem* "I'm sorry, she's dead Jim."
LELOUCH: My life is ruined, and you're trying to mimic Star Trek?
ROLO: I...I can do a really good Spock...
LELOUCH: THESE AREN'T EVEN GOOD JOKES! I'VE ALWAYS HATED YOU AND WANTED YOU DEAD! AND YOU KNOW WHAT ELSE? PICARD IS BETTER THAN KIRK!
ROLO: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! ALL THAT I KNOW IS A LIE!

GENERIC NARRATOR: And so, for the purposes of cruel plot development, Lelouch remained in a depressed and unresponsive state for several hours.

JEREMIAH: Ah, Suzaku. Thanks for saving me that one time.
SUZAKU: ...............
JEREMIAH: If this were a logical scene, I'd be outraged that you killed the only family that my master has left along with millions of other people.
SUZAKU: ...............
JEREMIAH: But I guess this is just filler to keep me away from the really important things that are going on, so oh well. See ya.

NINA: Everyone...all those people died! My borab actually destroys! I had no idea!
LLOYD: Wow. I'm crazy, and even I know how stupid that sounRAB.
NINA: WAAAAAAAAAAAAH!
LLOYD: In the end, you'll have to choose between your heart and science.
NINA: So what choice did you make?
LLOYD: Are you still talking about that? Look, I'm trying to think about robots here.
NINA: WAAAAAAAAH!

MILLY: Check it out, I have yet another random cameo.
RIVALZ: OOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHH MY GOD, YOU'RE ALIVE!
MILLY: AND YOU'RE ALIVE!
RIVALZ: DO YOU THINK THIS PLOT THREAD WILL GO ANYWHERE?
MILLY: PROBABLY NOT!

OUGI: Must run faster! Must stop my love interest from escaping!
VILLETTA: Ougi!
OUGI: Oh, you were here in your room all along! I no longer care about the ship's security.
VILLETTA: Honestly. Your unrequited love has made you a flake.
OUGI: Like you're one to talk.

CORNELIA: Hahahahaha, I'll escape from these foolish elevens easily. The fact that I'm far above ground and would probably die if I jumped off the ship definitely isn't a problem.
DIETHARD: Your faulty logic aside, here I am to stop you!
CORNELIA: Well, my situation is almost as ugly as your face.
DIETHARD: How droll--oh crap, a Britannian vessel!
SCHNEIZEL: I come in peace and with a weapon of mass destruction. Take me to your leaders!
DIETHARD: Well, there goes my fifteen seconRAB of glory.

GENERIC NARRATOR: Due to time constraints, this conversation has been speed dubbed just like Speed Racer.
TODOH: Time to get this meeting started, ah-ha!
TAMAKI: TIME TO ACT STUPID, HA!
SCHNEIZEL: Zero is really my brother, AH-HA!
BLACK KNIGHTS: SHOCKING! UGH!
DIETHARD: An obvious lie, ha-ha!
KANON: Geass evidence, AH-HA!
TODOH: UGH!
CORNELIA: AH-HA, Euphemia is innocent, HA-HA!
OUGI: Here I am with my babe for no good reason, ah-ha!
VILLETTA: Geass was used on me too!
NAGISA: No one cares, ha-ha!
TODOH: THAT'S IT. ZERO MUST GO!
OUGI: Japan for Zero, that's the deal!
SCHNEIZEL: Betrayal it is, ha-ha!

Later that day

KALLEN: I'm so sorry for your loss, Lelouch. I lost my own brother, and then the story forgot all about it.
LELOUCH: .....forgot?
*Lelouch stares down at the floor, despondent*
KALLEN: Er, that is--not that SHE'LL be...I mean...oh, no, if only something could happen to break the tension.
OUGI: STOP RIGHT THERE, ZERO! YOU'RE SURROUNDED!
KALLEN: I take it back!
TODOH: We know all of your secrets, Zero! You used us all and used the lives of our comrades as tools!
TAMAKI: YOU LET US DOWN, MAN! YOU WERE MY BEST BUDDY!
EVERYONE ELSE: No, he wasn't.
DIETHARD: The great hero, Zero, died heroically in battle. Don't worry, you will live on through propaganda and cheaply made action figures.
LELOUCH: You bastard!
SUNRISE EXECUTIVE: Product placement rules!
KALLEN: NO! This can't be right! Tell me it isn't true!
LELOUCH: The Black Knights were excellent pawns! And you were the best of all. Until you got captured, that is.
KALLEN: Thanks, I'd almost forgotten about that.
LELOUCH: Eight episodes of doing nothing. That has to hurt.
KALLEN: That's it. I'm so gone.
LELOUCH (speaking quietly): Live on, Kallen. And don't throw away your bunny costume.
*The Black Knights fire*
KALLEN: NO! THE IRONY!
ROLO: DEUS EX MACHINA RESCUE!
LELOUCH: Leave me to die, Rolo! I don't deserve rescue! I bet that Gundam 00 won't be this depressing!
ROLO: No! I must win sympathy from the audience at the last minute! Geass, on!
ANYA: Fire. Miss. Fire. Miss. I sense a pattern at work here. Oh well. Fire. Miss...
GENERIC SOLDIERS: We all suck!

Somewhere in the forest

LELOUCH: Rolo, I won't forget your sacrifice. How I buried you without any tools, however, is apparently something that the writers forgot. Anyway, now that I have nothing left, it's time to take down dear old Dad!

Back at the Black Knight Base

NAGISA: So, that's that.
OUGI: So......what now?
TODOH: I dunno. I kind of figured that the rest of you had a plan for after Zero was gone.
OUGI: Well, crap.
KALLEN: So you acted out of spite and have no plan, and you thought it was a good idea for your very best pilot to go around without knowing anything. Good job, you incompetent jerks. I'm out of here.

*awkward silence*

TAMAKI: Maybe I can--
NAGISA: No.
TAMAKI: Damn.
VILLETTA: What happens to me?
DIETHARD: Everyone stopped caring several episodes ago, trust me.
OUGI: Oh well. Everything will work out just fine even without the brilliant mind that single-handedly brought us all of our victories.
TODOH: Uh...right. Perhaps.
OUGI: Nothing will happen.
DIETHARD: We understand.
OUGI: I mean, it's not like Prince Schneizel and Princess Cornelia can't be trusted. It's not like they could still fire their FREIJA borab at any time. And it sure isn't like some new crisis could emerge that will make everything up until now look like a day at the beach. No sir, everything will be just fine.

*silence*

DIETHARD: Uh-oh.
TODOH: Oh, good lord, we are SO screwed.

THE END
 
There may be an in-show explanation for this we don't know (we haven't seen Viletta either since LeLouch "recruited" her), but I think Rolo is absent because the show would be written into a corner if he were involved in every battle. The guy can easily make tons of people believe time has stopped; he would make battles exponentially easier.

He's not there for the same reason Superman doesn't solve every problem in Justice League. You don't want to create dependency, a situation where its always "okay, we're in trouble, get Rolo!"
 
Oh and there are rumors that Schneizel is marrying the child empress of china and that Suzaku is marrying Nunnally. They have been around since before R2 started. But we know that Schneizel was negotiating with china last season but not over what. Possibly over an arranged political marriage? And with what we just learned about Nunnally.....

All the rumors here from crunchyroll:

Code Geass R2 - SPOILERS!!

~ Nunnaly knew all along who killed their mother.
~ Kallen will leave the order of black knights...??
~ C.C will die but will be resurrected by Marianne
~ That means Marianne isnt dead.
~ Marianne is one of the most powerful of her kind, C.C and V.V and the others in a different world then ours
~ Charles vi Britannia (mr. otou-sama of lulu is after ultimate geass to control the whole world, he wants submission from European union, the Chinese federation and Indian army)
~ Nina will be behind the loss of many lives in Ashford academy, possible victim might be either Cecile or Milley.
~ Shirley will recover from her forgetting, at least she will understand that something went horrible between her and Lelouch.
~ Suzaku might get a geass from V.V.
~ Lelouch isnt Zero?!? New Zero might not be lulu...??
~ Recognised as a knight by Cornelia, Suzaku is ready to kick some ass.
~ Most importantly Euphemia might be just saved by V.V.
~ Cornelia might still be alive.. somewhere... .

The new zero not being zero might refer to C.C. impersonation of zero doing his return speech. Or it was a baseless rumor. On the perivous page are early spoilers of the 5 episodes we've seen so far and they are partly correct so we'll see how accurate the rest of the rumors are.

more spoilers from the same forum on the next three episodes:

Turn 6 Surprise Attack in the Pacific Ocean 「太平洋　奇襲　作戦」May 11th
>To seize the new governor-general of Area 11, the Order of the Black Knights performed a surprise attack. The Britannian Air Force Escort Fleet is totally beaten because of their underestimating the OotBK. Just as a complete victory is at hand, the OotBK is arabushed by a troop of knightmares in air. What will happen to Zero in this chaos?

>Turn 7 The Discarded Mask 「棄てられた　仮面」May 18th
>Losing the meaning to fight anymore, Lelouch discarRAB the mask and wonders in the streets. Is he going to give up being Zero?
Deep in the night in the empty Ashford Academy, what will Lelouch see?
At the same time, Suzaku is pressing upon the OotBK who's stationed in Tokyo Bay. Is this the end to Zero and the Order?

>Turn 8 Miracle/Track/Foundation of a Million 「百万　の　キセキ」May 25th
>The new governor-general declares the establishment of "Special Administrative District Japan".
This name has became a synonym to the massacre of Princess Euphiemia.
What is the real intention behind this declaration which brings up the nightmare again?

And as the person who gave this said: "Well I guess that confirms Nunnally as the new Governor General of Japan"

Looks like nunnally will try to reinstate Euphiamia's plan about giving the Japanese back there name but how will anyone trust her after what happened?
 
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