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Rebirth of the Rebellion - Code Geass R2 Talkback (SPOILERS)
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Yellow Candy Jewel
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Actually, Sam...
It isn't completely out of the question, Schneizel doesn't like Charles at all. But, I have been trying to find sources for the spoiler and none have come up, so for now I will label it as speculation, but I shall look further.
GymmyluvsU
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Oh my... I can understand why this would cause such controversy. After doing some hunting I can say that the leak was... quite a big spoiler to the entire episode. But-I really don't want them to change it. There could have been worse.
This does not look good.
This does not look good.
Hah, that's awesome!
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What gets me about them betraying Zero & all is that when they're discussing Geass & looking at the pics....Cornelia goes: [This also explains why Jeremiah & others defected to us]
I can understand some of the other choices, but Orange left due to the whole "Royal Family" shindig & not Geass, so what gives?
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What gets me about them betraying Zero & all is that when they're discussing Geass & looking at the pics....Cornelia goes: [This also explains why Jeremiah & others defected to us]
I can understand some of the other choices, but Orange left due to the whole "Royal Family" shindig & not Geass, so what gives?
While his life has been a downer, Charles did say (Well, pretty much)...
That his lies would lose him everything. Essentially I think this is another method for the show to have Lelouch yet again learn a life lesson, and do that thing we call growing up. Everything he has worked for in the 2/3 years has been through lies, deception, etc, and now that he has lost it all the only thing he can do is gain it back through the truth. Now is the time for him to show his true colors, but I don't expect him to go after Schneizel right now, but moreso his own father so that he doesn't wipe out the entire planet.
And another thing, I don't see why the Chinese would be loyal anyways, I doubt Xingke and company would have cared he was a prince, he recognized that he was a good commander, and Xingke joined pretty much because Zero liberated China, what good are the order to him now?
And another thing, I don't see why the Chinese would be loyal anyways, I doubt Xingke and company would have cared he was a prince, he recognized that he was a good commander, and Xingke joined pretty much because Zero liberated China, what good are the order to him now?
I was going to answer yes but you beat me to it.
I've never watched Destiny so I have to ask you guys. Is Code Geass doing better in the story department (keeping a sensible and coherent storyline/character development) than Destiny and if so is there any reason to think this won't continue?
Destiny is one bad example among many much better shows from sunrise so it maybe a bit unfair to harp about Destiny all the time. Just saying, keep the hope alive since Code Geass has not given us a reason to doubt yet.
I've never watched Destiny so I have to ask you guys. Is Code Geass doing better in the story department (keeping a sensible and coherent storyline/character development) than Destiny and if so is there any reason to think this won't continue?
Destiny is one bad example among many much better shows from sunrise so it maybe a bit unfair to harp about Destiny all the time. Just saying, keep the hope alive since Code Geass has not given us a reason to doubt yet.
I give the series a 3.5 (rounded up to a 4 for the purposes of this poll) because, while the result is significantly inferior to what I would have expected at the beginning of the season due to huge pacing problems, the ending made great thematic sense even if not everything was properly resolved on a case by case basis. Lelouch's story is certainly a closed book now and I've always felt he was what carried the show.
Other than that, some random talk...what can I say, Ougi and Viletta did not click for me at all. Even during the first eason, when they at least had some decent build-up, it felt iffy. Yes, I can see what they were going for, but it needed more development and not what we got.
At the same time, I was all for C.C. and Lelouch or even Kallen and Lelouch...which didn't have the best execution in the world either but at least it was better, as I felt something for the characters and their relationships. Even if they ended in quasi-tragedy, they felt a little more real and less like artificial props.
Other than that, some random talk...what can I say, Ougi and Viletta did not click for me at all. Even during the first eason, when they at least had some decent build-up, it felt iffy. Yes, I can see what they were going for, but it needed more development and not what we got.
At the same time, I was all for C.C. and Lelouch or even Kallen and Lelouch...which didn't have the best execution in the world either but at least it was better, as I felt something for the characters and their relationships. Even if they ended in quasi-tragedy, they felt a little more real and less like artificial props.
queenhenide776
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That's what I was going for.
Well, at least he caught on and left it to Kaguya. I was kind of expecting more convincing and less holding during the battle, though. If she'd been convinced earlier, the Black Knights might not have had to go through so much.
Well, at least he caught on and left it to Kaguya. I was kind of expecting more convincing and less holding during the battle, though. If she'd been convinced earlier, the Black Knights might not have had to go through so much.
Late to the party, as usual.
The chess game was effectively over at that point - and there really couldn't have been any ridiculous legal moves, because they were set up for a perpetual check. At that point it was no longer a chess match, it was just a big power play. Hell, it wasn't even about honor. Schneizel decides he doesn't want a stalemate, so he comes right out and says "here, I will (illegally) move my king into check and concede victory to you. Do my bidding, puppet." It would've been the same as him just tipping his king over, but that wouldn't have allowed for Lelouch's response, which is basically to say "oh, there's no way in hell I'm going to publicly do something you tell me to" and refuse. It's basically a big penis length contest between the two of them.
The intent was clear enough, but it was hurt by the audience's reactions, which were overblown in typical anime fashion.
Anyway, as far as other stuff goes... hmm.
Lol at the angry Black Knight getting told off for making jokes using Chinese stereotypes. The Chinese characters and people seem to be portrayed pretty positively so far, with the exception of their leaders.
I think people are overreacting to the "fanservice" this time around. Karen's outfit was actually pretty normal (hell, I see people dressed like that all the time) apart from the down-the-shirt shot at the end, and the dresses at the party wouldn't be out of place at a similar scene in one of a hundred movies.
Nina gets more annoying with each new scene she appears in. Either get a grip or irradiate yourself working on a new superweapon, girl, but do something different.
On that note, Karen was pretty good in standing up to Nina's tirade - although the Japanese/Britannian thing really isn't her mental weak point. Kaguya managed to gain a few points on the "I'm less annoying than in season 1" scale by standing up to Suzaku. Suzaku, as usual, is just there to be mocked.
Lelouch's arrogance makes a full return for the first time this season, which may be because he's no longer concerned about trampling the Ashford crew et al underfoot. Either he gradually spirals out of control or somebody (read: Karen) enRAB up bringing him back down to Earth.
Oh, and Jerry's back.
The chess game was effectively over at that point - and there really couldn't have been any ridiculous legal moves, because they were set up for a perpetual check. At that point it was no longer a chess match, it was just a big power play. Hell, it wasn't even about honor. Schneizel decides he doesn't want a stalemate, so he comes right out and says "here, I will (illegally) move my king into check and concede victory to you. Do my bidding, puppet." It would've been the same as him just tipping his king over, but that wouldn't have allowed for Lelouch's response, which is basically to say "oh, there's no way in hell I'm going to publicly do something you tell me to" and refuse. It's basically a big penis length contest between the two of them.
The intent was clear enough, but it was hurt by the audience's reactions, which were overblown in typical anime fashion.
Anyway, as far as other stuff goes... hmm.
Lol at the angry Black Knight getting told off for making jokes using Chinese stereotypes. The Chinese characters and people seem to be portrayed pretty positively so far, with the exception of their leaders.
I think people are overreacting to the "fanservice" this time around. Karen's outfit was actually pretty normal (hell, I see people dressed like that all the time) apart from the down-the-shirt shot at the end, and the dresses at the party wouldn't be out of place at a similar scene in one of a hundred movies.
Nina gets more annoying with each new scene she appears in. Either get a grip or irradiate yourself working on a new superweapon, girl, but do something different.
On that note, Karen was pretty good in standing up to Nina's tirade - although the Japanese/Britannian thing really isn't her mental weak point. Kaguya managed to gain a few points on the "I'm less annoying than in season 1" scale by standing up to Suzaku. Suzaku, as usual, is just there to be mocked.
Lelouch's arrogance makes a full return for the first time this season, which may be because he's no longer concerned about trampling the Ashford crew et al underfoot. Either he gradually spirals out of control or somebody (read: Karen) enRAB up bringing him back down to Earth.
Oh, and Jerry's back.
100% anonymous
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Episode 21 Mini-Parody
Code Geass: Lelouch of the Empire. No, this isn't the Twilight Zone.
Uh-oh, did I just jump the shark?!?!
GENERIC NARRATOR: Get ready, folks! It's time for--
ALL CODE GEASS FEMALE VOICES: GEASS CHANNEL!
KALLEN: GOOD MORNING, GEASS FANS! Welcome to Geass Channel! I'm your oh-so-adorable host, Kallen Kouzuki!
SHIRLEY: And I'm the assistant host, Shirley! I may be dead, but I still attract the fanboys!
C.C. Not as many as me, though. I used to be immortal, and that makes me mysterious and cool.
KALLEN: And that would be our co-assistant host, C.C, who I'm not jealous of at all. Also, this definitely isn't ripping off Lucky Star.
C.C. Right, sure, that's why we're being animated in Super Deformed style.
SHIRLEY: Eeeeeh? Oooooh, cool!
KALLEN: Anyway, we have lots to talk about today! And who better to fill us in on the details than an actual reporter! Let's welcome our special guest, Milly Ashford!
MILLY: Thank you, Kallen! As it turns out, thanks to Geass, Lady Marianne's personality was inside Anya all along. After years of oppressing the masses and ruling with an iron fist, Emperor Charles Britannia finally crossed the line when he revealed to us all that he was the biggest Evangelion fanboy in the universe.
****FLASrabroadACK****
CHARLES: HUMANITY WILL BE ONE CONSCIOUSNESS AND THERE WILL BE NO LIES! BECAUSE THERE WILL BE NO PEOPLE! GET IT?
SUZAKU: That's...wow. Just wow.
LELOUCH: Holy freaking ****. And they said I was insane. I mean, maybe I am, just a little bit, but DAMN.
C.C. I'll just sit down and agree with you both.
CHARLES: Look, really. It'll be absolutely fantastic.
LELOUCH: You threw me and Nunally away for this C-Grade evil plan? Honestly, on behalf of all self-respecting shonen protagnoists everywhere, I am insulted.
MARIANNE: You're not convinced? I can't understand why!
SUZAKU: Seriously? Lady, I don't know if anybody's ever told you this, but there is something wrong with you. Besides, without my body, I can't hold Zaku-chan.
CHARLES: MY EVANGELION ENDING TRUMPS GUNPLA, YOU FOOL! PSYCHO-EMPEROR CRUSHER M. BISON RIPOFF ATTACK!
SUZAKU: Trumps Gunpla? Blasphemy! Lelouch, results through action! Protecting what you love means denying something else! Et cetera!
LELOUCH: All right then, how about my Metaphysical Outraged Commandment of Youth Attack! Time shall go on!
CHARLES: NOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooo..........
MARIANNE: Somehow, it feels as though my 15 minutes of fame were wasted.
LELOUCH: The world as it is, not a revolution! The Dragons of Heaven were right.
GENERIC NARRATOR: X, BY CLAMP! BUY IT TODAY!
CLAMP: Hahaha, we finally got some payoff for our work!
SUZAKU: It's over? Clearly, my love of Gundam model kits made the difference.
LELOUCH: Shut up, it was your timely advice and my luck as the series protagonist. Now let's go rule the world and stuff.
SUZAKU: Sweet! Progress before grudges, I say! That's why I'm way more awesome than Sasuke from Naruto.
****END FLASrabroadACK****
MILLY: And then, Lelouch used Geass on the royal family, took over the empire, and found himself the most ridiculous clothes that he could find.
SHIRLEY: NO WAY!
KALLEN: Seriously, I agree with Suzaku. Everyone knows that Gundam is better. But my Guren is just the best!
SUNRISE EXECUTIVE: Product placement rules!
KALLEN: The show has really changed a lot, hasn't it? But don't worry, even without Zero leading the rebellion, I'll do my best as the leading lady until the end!
C.C. Excuse me? That's my role.
KALLEN: Ooooh, right. What have you done to deserve that?
C.C. Well I wasn't captured for a third of the season, for one thing!
KALLEN: Oh please, as opposed to your pointless amnesia?
C.C. I'll have you know that it made my character extremely sympathetic! By the way, whatever happened to your backstory? Oh, that's right. It was something that we like to call FORGOTTEN.
KALLEN: Listen here, you green-haired birabo, I'm the one with piloting skills and the strongest giant robot! I was fighting the empire as his right hand of justice when you were sitting around his apartment in a straitjacket!
C.C. *I* kissed Lelouch in season 1!
KALLEN: WHAT? YOU ROLE-STEALING WENCH!
C.C. And you're a fanservice tool of a jerk!
SHIRLEY: Ah-ha-ha, moving right along, let's read some viewer mail! *ahem* "Dear Shirley. You say you attract fanboys, but you don't attract me. I'm glad you're dead. Your character was shallow. I hate you so much, I wish the show would make you alive again just so that you could die again. Also, I think that Kallen is a babe. Signed, HellCat."
*silence*
****DESK SLAM****
SHIRLEY: WHAT THE HELL IS THIS!
KALLEN: HA! See, see! Victory is mine!
SHIRLEY: THIS MEANS WAR!
KALLEN: Bring it on, you pampered schoolgirl!
C.C. We'll see who's hot after my chair smashes your face!
****curtain closes, violent noises and shouting****
GENERIC NARRATOR: Oh, son of a--that is, JOIN US NEXT TIME FOR ANOTHER EXCITING EDITION OF GEASS CHANNEL!
**loud crashes, shrill screams**
GENERIC NARRATOR: For the love of Tomino, CALL SECURITY!
Code Geass: Lelouch of the Empire. No, this isn't the Twilight Zone.
Uh-oh, did I just jump the shark?!?!
GENERIC NARRATOR: Get ready, folks! It's time for--
ALL CODE GEASS FEMALE VOICES: GEASS CHANNEL!
KALLEN: GOOD MORNING, GEASS FANS! Welcome to Geass Channel! I'm your oh-so-adorable host, Kallen Kouzuki!
SHIRLEY: And I'm the assistant host, Shirley! I may be dead, but I still attract the fanboys!
C.C. Not as many as me, though. I used to be immortal, and that makes me mysterious and cool.
KALLEN: And that would be our co-assistant host, C.C, who I'm not jealous of at all. Also, this definitely isn't ripping off Lucky Star.
C.C. Right, sure, that's why we're being animated in Super Deformed style.
SHIRLEY: Eeeeeh? Oooooh, cool!
KALLEN: Anyway, we have lots to talk about today! And who better to fill us in on the details than an actual reporter! Let's welcome our special guest, Milly Ashford!
MILLY: Thank you, Kallen! As it turns out, thanks to Geass, Lady Marianne's personality was inside Anya all along. After years of oppressing the masses and ruling with an iron fist, Emperor Charles Britannia finally crossed the line when he revealed to us all that he was the biggest Evangelion fanboy in the universe.
****FLASrabroadACK****
CHARLES: HUMANITY WILL BE ONE CONSCIOUSNESS AND THERE WILL BE NO LIES! BECAUSE THERE WILL BE NO PEOPLE! GET IT?
SUZAKU: That's...wow. Just wow.
LELOUCH: Holy freaking ****. And they said I was insane. I mean, maybe I am, just a little bit, but DAMN.
C.C. I'll just sit down and agree with you both.
CHARLES: Look, really. It'll be absolutely fantastic.
LELOUCH: You threw me and Nunally away for this C-Grade evil plan? Honestly, on behalf of all self-respecting shonen protagnoists everywhere, I am insulted.
MARIANNE: You're not convinced? I can't understand why!
SUZAKU: Seriously? Lady, I don't know if anybody's ever told you this, but there is something wrong with you. Besides, without my body, I can't hold Zaku-chan.
CHARLES: MY EVANGELION ENDING TRUMPS GUNPLA, YOU FOOL! PSYCHO-EMPEROR CRUSHER M. BISON RIPOFF ATTACK!
SUZAKU: Trumps Gunpla? Blasphemy! Lelouch, results through action! Protecting what you love means denying something else! Et cetera!
LELOUCH: All right then, how about my Metaphysical Outraged Commandment of Youth Attack! Time shall go on!
CHARLES: NOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooo..........
MARIANNE: Somehow, it feels as though my 15 minutes of fame were wasted.
LELOUCH: The world as it is, not a revolution! The Dragons of Heaven were right.
GENERIC NARRATOR: X, BY CLAMP! BUY IT TODAY!
CLAMP: Hahaha, we finally got some payoff for our work!
SUZAKU: It's over? Clearly, my love of Gundam model kits made the difference.
LELOUCH: Shut up, it was your timely advice and my luck as the series protagonist. Now let's go rule the world and stuff.
SUZAKU: Sweet! Progress before grudges, I say! That's why I'm way more awesome than Sasuke from Naruto.
****END FLASrabroadACK****
MILLY: And then, Lelouch used Geass on the royal family, took over the empire, and found himself the most ridiculous clothes that he could find.
SHIRLEY: NO WAY!
KALLEN: Seriously, I agree with Suzaku. Everyone knows that Gundam is better. But my Guren is just the best!
SUNRISE EXECUTIVE: Product placement rules!
KALLEN: The show has really changed a lot, hasn't it? But don't worry, even without Zero leading the rebellion, I'll do my best as the leading lady until the end!
C.C. Excuse me? That's my role.
KALLEN: Ooooh, right. What have you done to deserve that?
C.C. Well I wasn't captured for a third of the season, for one thing!
KALLEN: Oh please, as opposed to your pointless amnesia?
C.C. I'll have you know that it made my character extremely sympathetic! By the way, whatever happened to your backstory? Oh, that's right. It was something that we like to call FORGOTTEN.
KALLEN: Listen here, you green-haired birabo, I'm the one with piloting skills and the strongest giant robot! I was fighting the empire as his right hand of justice when you were sitting around his apartment in a straitjacket!
C.C. *I* kissed Lelouch in season 1!
KALLEN: WHAT? YOU ROLE-STEALING WENCH!
C.C. And you're a fanservice tool of a jerk!
SHIRLEY: Ah-ha-ha, moving right along, let's read some viewer mail! *ahem* "Dear Shirley. You say you attract fanboys, but you don't attract me. I'm glad you're dead. Your character was shallow. I hate you so much, I wish the show would make you alive again just so that you could die again. Also, I think that Kallen is a babe. Signed, HellCat."
*silence*
****DESK SLAM****
SHIRLEY: WHAT THE HELL IS THIS!
KALLEN: HA! See, see! Victory is mine!
SHIRLEY: THIS MEANS WAR!
KALLEN: Bring it on, you pampered schoolgirl!
C.C. We'll see who's hot after my chair smashes your face!
****curtain closes, violent noises and shouting****
GENERIC NARRATOR: Oh, son of a--that is, JOIN US NEXT TIME FOR ANOTHER EXCITING EDITION OF GEASS CHANNEL!
**loud crashes, shrill screams**
GENERIC NARRATOR: For the love of Tomino, CALL SECURITY!
Geass is not episodic, the story like most anime is told in a continuous narrative. For that reason the story should flow togethor, with each episode feeling like we're getting the next 22 minute segment of a continuing story. It can never seem to manage that. You can't expect dramatic moments to hold any impact when they're followed up with fluff.
"I am Lelouch. I have declared war against my home nation and cultivated an army to this end. The blood of many stains my hanRAB. I have sold my soul for the power to achieve my goals. But one question haunts me, lingering in my mind....do girls like me? Waaah!!"
"I am Lelouch. I have declared war against my home nation and cultivated an army to this end. The blood of many stains my hanRAB. I have sold my soul for the power to achieve my goals. But one question haunts me, lingering in my mind....do girls like me? Waaah!!"
Yes, Schinezel. Because giving Nina a WMD is exactly the kind of thing she neeRAB right now. I mean, that's like giving Bush a magic button that would launch nuclear missiles at any target and saying "Hey, go nuts!"
I was hoping that we would find out C.C. name this time but their still putting the kabosh on that one (However, if you pronounce "sister" like a Japanese person would say it, it kind of sounRAB like saying 'C2")
When the emperor got shot, I was just laughing. Why? Because we have 10 more episodes left and there is absolutely no way it was going to be that easy. However I will admit using mirrors like that looked extremely badass there...Also Charles scream was a nice touch. Oh, and I bet Lelouch was hoping he would stay down.
Oh great, C.C. just became Nyu from Elfen Lied.
10 year old C.C...Fanboys: TO 4CHAN MEN GO GO GO GO!!!!
I'm calling it now, Nunally's assistant lady (whatever her name is) is going to slap her out of her chair when she does something that really pisses her off...Then Nunally will shoot a missle out the chair...then I will laugh.
And thus the question of what C.C. and V.V. are is solved...and no they are not aliens like I thought.
EDIT:
I was hoping that we would find out C.C. name this time but their still putting the kabosh on that one (However, if you pronounce "sister" like a Japanese person would say it, it kind of sounRAB like saying 'C2")
When the emperor got shot, I was just laughing. Why? Because we have 10 more episodes left and there is absolutely no way it was going to be that easy. However I will admit using mirrors like that looked extremely badass there...Also Charles scream was a nice touch. Oh, and I bet Lelouch was hoping he would stay down.
Oh great, C.C. just became Nyu from Elfen Lied.
10 year old C.C...Fanboys: TO 4CHAN MEN GO GO GO GO!!!!
I'm calling it now, Nunally's assistant lady (whatever her name is) is going to slap her out of her chair when she does something that really pisses her off...Then Nunally will shoot a missle out the chair...then I will laugh.
And thus the question of what C.C. and V.V. are is solved...and no they are not aliens like I thought.
EDIT:
RyzGlidz1970
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Sunday afternoons in Japan (oops, my bad about the mistake)
Obviously if you are mentioning it you are not watching this incredibly awesome series...like you should be...right now. (That means the rest of you guys too)
Just to stay on topic (ahem) WHAT THE HECK WAS LELOUCH AND KALLEN DOING? I'VE NEVER BEEN THIS HYPED FOR THE NEXT EPISODE THAN THE END OF THE LAST SEASON. (and that pissed everybody off)
Just to stay on topic (ahem) WHAT THE HECK WAS LELOUCH AND KALLEN DOING? I'VE NEVER BEEN THIS HYPED FOR THE NEXT EPISODE THAN THE END OF THE LAST SEASON. (and that pissed everybody off)
lildeb1258
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I've been feeling like that, but I just assumed it was because I'm biased when it comes to Suzaku. Episode 8, I thought, did a great job in showing a more sympathetic side to him, but nothing has really come of it since. I'm a bit disappointed.