Rebirth of the Rebellion - Code Geass R2 Talkback (SPOILERS)

Here's hoping that Suzaku redeems himself next episode. It better not be a trap. I want to like Suzaku, but I just can't. Maybe that will change next episode, but probably not.

Nina neeRAB to die soon. She annoys me so much.
 
Ah Schneizel, I always new you were an evil power hunger villain. Schneizel is the epitome of a Machiavellian character. He gives off a friendly and noble persona but it truth he is an amoral prince looking for what princes look for, that's is, of course, more power.

Also, the knight of 4:

http://geass.jp/world_03_ex.html?pid=chara_63.html
 
Plus think of how perverted his mind has gotten. He could have easily killed off Lelouch right then and there (despite the Emperor's orders). But then I think maybe there's some subconscious thought (DCAU fans think of Lex Luthor's dialogue with Superman in "A Better World" Part I's prologue), that also compelled him not to do it. As such Suzaku has developed a dependency toward Zero. He neeRAB him in the sense that keeping him alive fulfills him.

Unless that isn't the case, then Suzaku is kicking himself (or at least listening to some ALI Project or See-Saw in his room) after finding out Zero is back. But think of a potential scenario if both cross paths again....

Lelouch: Go ahead Suzaku. Shoot me. Shoot the only reason that you still live. Shoot the last remaining thing that gives your life meaning.
 
Crazy episode. I love Lelouch's pope hat. Suzaku looks great.
Oh Lloyd. You can be the crazy uncle in this defective family

YAY XINGKE SIGHTING!!! Way to go Black knights. You're royally screwing yourselves. But then again, Lelouch has been doing that this entire series.

"All of you shall become my slaves". Subtle.

This series doesn't feel like its ending soon when it probably should. I don't like these 'lets go all out 3 episodes before the apocalypse!' techniques. I have a feeling that the ending is going to turn out being a rushed mountain of geass-slop, with a dash of wtf-ness for flavor.

Nina is still a nut job no matter how 'nice' she is now. Gino, questioning your faith are we?

I don't like how Lelouch is acting like a tyrant. I'm sure he's got some kind of plan in mind, but regardless it bothers me when he pushes people away or makes himself the anti-christ. Typical man *rolls eyes*. I agree with everybody else who doesn't want a Death Note ending. This show angers me as it is, I'd hate to watch the final episode and end up detesting all anime because of its stupidity. Lelouch dyeing with a 'smile' on his face doesn't change the fact that he'd be dead. The only way to keep the masses from rioting is to keep him alive. At least for sanity's sake.

I have no idea where this show is going.
 
I would have liked 0080 better if they took out an annoying little ten-year-old boy... though its another gundam that doesn't focus on superheros...err...I mean newtypes.
 
Can you do it again next week because I feel like with next week's school episode this would be perfect.
 
On the topic of Rolo, something occurs to me. If we do get some kind of team-up between Lelouch and Suzaku before the end, I don't see Rolo taking it very well. He's very jealous of the other people in Lelouch's life, obviously, and Lelouch and Suzaku have a history. So, if that were to happen, I don't see it ending well.

Not to mention, the "Live" Geass is likely to pop up again down the line.
 
That's how I see that also. Both were victims of Geass and found kindred spirits with one another. That and Orange can actually help Anya remeraber her lost memories normally as well as after using Anti-Geass.
 
It's not magix, if people actually remeraber Sanako's explanation. She had the most logical and practical survival.



Man, I hate Lelouch's "martyr" syndrome so much now. You can clearly see Sanako and Cecil lying about a "Tyrant." Sanako's like a mother, and Cecil has higher priority in Llyod's pants than some royal squabble. I was expecting the little loli to go "Guess what I found! The emperor is really-*quiet explanation, Xing-Ke shocked, then an expression of sadness*

Also, Kallen's a B**ch now. Seriously.
 
Agreed. Rolo's done too much for me to actually like him (ironic coming from the Suzaku fan, huh?), but I did find his death scene to be very well done. I actually felt pity for him, though I still don't like him.

Gee Nina, you didn't think your borab might actually kill a lot of people? Really now? Gah.

I knew Schneizel having that recording from Lelouch and Suzaku's meeting couldn't be a good thing. But the Black Knights were bound to find out eventually. I'm just amazed that they really found out everything at this point. With all that was revealed, I'm not really surprised the Black Knights acted like they did. Diethard tried to defend Zero (interesting that Cornelia seemed to think he knew Lelouch was Zero all along) with the same defenses I was thinking of, but with everything out in the open at once, it's really not a surprise at all. I can't be really mad at them. I think they'll regret it, but I understand where they're coming from.

Jeremiah thanking Suzaku for saving him came out of nowhere. Seemed like such a random scene. But the way he said they must be destined to be enemies made me think a team-up there is likely.

Speaking of my boy, his laugh at the end was so unhinged; it really sent shivers down my spine.

I can only guess where things will go for Lelouch and Suzaku at this point. It's going to be interesting, that's for sure.
 
So, this might have been mentioned somewhere in the Anime Expo news, but it turns out that sound drama that comes with BEI's special edition release of Geass *is*, in fact, dubbed into English. So, between that and the soundtrack and the manga, that's three extras for super serious fans that want to go for that. They apparently also have the light novels (there are light novels?) and Suzaku of the Counter Attack and Nightmare of Nunnally.

Man, if Gundam 00's release is half this good...
 
I actually think that's a point for what Hellcat was saying because I think FMP only did it in the first series and a lot of people (myself included) would say FMPF and FMP:TSR are better then the first series of FMP.

and that is probably because of the comedic and dramatic elements being separated into each series.

However, I do think it is possible to mix elements. I think Oh! Great does it pretty good in Air Gear/Ten-Ten, the former not having as much of a serious storyline at the start, but building to one. Tenten has mixed pretty serious elements with comedic elements from the first chapter and I'm a huge fan of it.

I think Bebop and Champloo mixed in comedic with dramatic... Champloo to a greater extent then Bebop.

But generally yea it is hard to be able to reset emotional planes, so not much stuff mixes in very deep dramatic storylines and suddenly going off into crazy comedic ones. When you look at Geass and it goes from genocide to school anime yapfest it sometimes does feel a bit off.
 
Its rumored that Suzaku want to become the first knight since that will allow him to rule any area he wants, meaning he could rule japan. So, Suzaku has no problem letting the rest of the world suffer because of brittaina. I hate Suzaku!
 
Why is anyone feeling bad for Rolo? He's a knife-wielding psychopath! It's better he's on Lelouch's leash than off slashing people up for minor reasons like earlier. This isn't Lelouch being evil, this is Lelouch being mad at someone who is definitely an enemy.
 
That blog is right about some things, but extremely flawed in many places. I'll give it a quick overview:

Characters: Dead on about Lelouch, I'm glad this at least is appreciated. Lelouch carried the show. I see little mention of Suzaku, though. I feel he is probably underrated. He's also way too generous with his "memorable" second tier characters. Out of that list I would only choose Cornelia (season 1), Lloyd, and Jeremiah. The others didn't have nearly the personalites or development to make it. I'd like to include Milly, but her graduation was too sudden and is linked to the horrible 12th episode. I don't believe that Kallen and Todoh were "wrecked." Todoh was the same man all of the way. The same for Kallen. She admired Lelouch and saw him as a man who could accomplish what her brother died for, and felt betrayed over his actions. That's a consistent fact. There's no doubt the story pushed her aside a bit, but she wasn't made unlike her season 1 self.

Crusader is full of it. He's right about the Knights of the RounRAB being misused, and that's about it. And what is he doing citing Clausewitz? Implying that Geass somehow fails for having Lelouch win battles through intellect and planning and limited means instead of going for a total-war, scorched-Earth approach? How exactly would his small rebellion have done that? And by the way, wasn't the Damocles pretty much an erabodiment of that principle he supports? How did that work out? This is fantastically absurd. He's essentially mad that Code Geass doesn't happen to reflect his personal belief system. There's no substance there.

Music: It was all good. Some people apparently hate Ali Project. I'm not their biggest fan, but the sentinment strikes me as an overblown fad mostly.

Mecha: I very much agree that in season 1 it was pretty down to Earth, whereas season 2 turned it into an insane tech war. Season 1 certainly had more focus on Lelouch's cunning strategies.

Story: This is ridiculous. You hate the story from an "artistic" standpoint, and yet say you like it? No. Also, I don't give a damn about their assessment of how much Geass contributed to stupid memes and "lulz." Review on the merits period, or go home. The only thing worse than being wrong about the quality of the show is being wrong about the quality of the show and then saying that it doesn't matter because it gave 4chan lots of memes. Sorry if that's harsh, but seriously.

And good lord, Lelouch's survival is not a plot hole. The show was dropping hints about it for a long time. To say that they were "wildly unintentional" is laughable. Do some people just outright ignore Nunally grieving over Lelouch at the end? I really don't understand this. Other elements are surely weak, like Marianne's death. They're right to cite undeveloped plot points but wrong to talk like every twist and turn in the entire show was just a random attempt to shock us. Give me a break. It isn't so just because internet trolls say so. They also don't seem to consider how Lelouch's growth was, in and of itself, an important part of the story.
 
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