Rebirth of the Rebellion - Code Geass R2 Talkback (SPOILERS)

I liked COLORS by Flow, but I won't go ranting and raving about it. While it was a catchy song with a nice tune that I actually enjoyed listening too, I also liked Kaidoku Funou just the same. In my ears Jinn is pretty good :3 And don't even get me started on Ali Project >_< So far this season I've completely skipped over every ED just because I hate their songs.
 
I think it varies. Obviously to even be contemplating suicide you must be feeling very low. In reality I'd say modern culture breeRAB the mentality. There are so many ways to slip up these days and we're constantly borabarded with images of happy, beautiful people to the extent it's easy to feel worthless. Some even find the lifestyles of fictional characters to be enviable in contrast to their reality.

With Suzaku, there's some ego there. If he just wanted to die, he could do it himself. But he wants to play martyr and get killed in a way that partially redeems him. That's alot like the trend of internet suicides, with people going "You'll be sorry when I'm gone!"
 
Well, obviously there has to be a line. If it's getting in the way of really discussing the actual show then it's definetly a problem. Plus it gets into politics, which is against TZ rules. Personally I only raise the issue if I feel the show has already done so. I'm not sitting around waiting to go "Aha! Lelouch opened the door at 60 degree angle. He did this at 6 o'clock on a Saturday. 666! They're saying foreigners are evil!"
 
There will be spoilers in here

Okay. That was excellent. I have no exceptions to make, it was just good. I could talk about smaller details and I will soon, but the big picture is what made the episode here.

I didn't find 13 boring at all, it was classic Geass as far as I'm concerned. Not particularly heavy on action, but characters and plot development made up for that. Shirley suspecting everyone at first was a reaction I would expect--you know she's emotionally confused when she questions whether even Milly and Rivalz were in on it. I found her shift throughout the episode believable; being saved by LeLouch and Suzaku made her realize there was someone she cared about behind Zero's mask. LeLouch's outburst surely didn't hurt things either.

I am absolutely durabstruck over the way Shirley died. I was expecting her to get caught in the middle of a fight, or for some mad Gundamesque twist of fate to happen. Knowing that freaking Rolo did it just because she mentioned Nunnally is absolutely infuriating. I won't be getting over this. The little bastard neeRAB to die, and I sincerely hope LeLouch discovers the truth and plots out a cruel demise for him.

The death scene was done very well. To me there was some symmetry with young LeLouch screaming over Marianne's murder in the flasrabroadack, and the LeLouch we know completely losing it over Shirley. His attempt to use Geass to force her to live was heartbreaking. The one time that a Geass command really, truly mattered to him, it was for something he had no hope of changing.

In my parodies, I mocked the fact that the show seemed to be hinting at a different love interest for LeLouch from episode to episode. I was of the opinion that he should just have someone, and to have that be the end of it. I now believe Geass should not resolve this. Or rather, it may have just done so. I think it's clear by now that Shirley's affections were not one-way. It is already established that LeLouch ruled out a relationship with her because he didn't want her to get involved in what he doing like before. Most importantly, LeLouch's line about not wanting to lose anything again was a direct reference to the way he lost his mother and Euphemia. That's what he had in mind. While Kallen matters to him, would he have mourned her death the same way? With that level of unhinged grief?

As much as I hate what happened, credit has to go where it's due. In season 1 we were told time and again that this was the story of LeLouch and his rebellion first. And also that LeLouch's actions would have unplanned consequences, whether he wanted them or not. At last, after only seeing glimpses of it in R2 so far, it feels like that spirit is finally back. The spoilers for the next few episodes suggest that arc episodes are in our future. May it be so, and may they all be of this calibur. Because this, this was a Code Geass episode.

Grade: A
 
It was a pretty good episode, but the first half was kind of boring.

I'll probably understand more of what happened later on, but as now it seems that Jeremiah may align himself with Lelouch, that or he's just using Lelouch's mother as a means to get closer to the Black Knights, but since apparently Lelouch is going to try and destroy the Geass cult, I think it's genuine.

It also seemed like Shirely was pretty devoted to helping Lelouch, despite having her memories of season one brought back to her. Rolo also seemed like he didn't mind letting Shirely stay...but then she mentioned rescuing Nunnally.

Seeing Lelouch trying to Geass Shirely into living was pretty sad, though I guess it does answer the question of people being able to be regeassed after they've had it canceled.
 
I just hope nunnally is really dead. I don't want another Mai-Hime.




But candy canes are tasty, isn't that the wrong type of thought regarding her?
 
There's 3 possibilities, IMO, after this episode regarding the MIA:

1) They're actually dead. Wouldn't surprise me due to this being the last season, and Sunrise re-learning their "tomino" style attacks after a long hiatus.

2) Nunnally is alive somewhere, in a crashed plane and retrieved. The FLEIJA doesn't discharge immediately, making it more plausible for a "last second ditch" escape.

3) They pull off a lame "Dimension gateway" trick, where everyone is stuck in an alternate time plane. Also an introduction to Marina later in the series.


Also, if you look at the extended preview, the Ashford Academy was like 2 inches away from the borab. Rivalz must've shat himself when he saw it.
 
I think one other pressing character was Charles. Now granted what they did with him and Marianne beats alot of fan theories, but trying to paint him as a victim...meh. As I believe was even pointed out by Lelouch, if he hated the world so much he did little to change it. We're supposed to believe he loathes liars, yet willingly encouraged back handed social clirabing amongst his own children? In some ways it felt as if Charles was intended to be a more 2D villain, than at some point they decided to give him a more human motive. I've already acknowledged how it makes him a parallel to Lelouch, but in general it doesn't quite add up. He could have been a benevolent ruler until his little plot could be pulled off. Instead he was a bastard and yet we're supposed to see him as a suffering innocent.
 
"I'd like to introduce our new Gundam Meister, a respectable young female pilot. Codename: Philiya Teetsalova"

Seriously, Geass has become this muddled mess that is trying to please every demographic going. Is it a mecha show? A character drama? A war story? A school comedy? A fanservice? A harem show? etc
It's like after the suprise hit of season 1, the sponsors stuck their talons in it and are trying to make it please everyone. You can't do that.
 
Charles was the biggest hypocrite to ever grace us with his wonderfully screwed up self. Not to mention they made him look like the size of Canada with those bottom to top camera angles.
 
For some reason I thought of Lelouch as Jesus just then....'knowing the truth'? There's alot of truths out there... I don't want to see Lelouch become some tyrant like his father. The title of 'Emperor' reminRAB me too much of that.

=[ If only....that's probably why Suzaku's always so pissed off.
 
It is can be very hard to let go. So you distract yourself by doing other things. What Suzaku is doing is that, distracting himself so he doesn't drive himself 100% crazy. He is still trying to create something based on Euphie's hopes because if he doesn't he WILL lose it completely. He either neeRAB a firm shove in the right direction or he will die at Lelouch's hanRAB . . . either that or he will succeed in killing Lelouch and leave the Rebellion crippled and without a leader. Like Lelouch, his morals have greyed and there is no telling what he will do to perserve whatever remains of Euphie's tattered dreams.
 
Damn those Japerkneez for making fun o' me country!

I don't anyone would be that offended by a show designed to sell toys... Personally I'd be more amused
 
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