OK, I have an 09 Ultra and I am ready for some new pipes. I have the Jack Pot slip on pipes now, (two years old) and although they perform well, they are too mellow for me. I want some large diameter pipes as the smaller one's look too small with the new fat tires on the new touring scooters. I am looking hard at the new Rinhart 4" slip on's, but want to get it right. I like the look of the V&H Monsters, but again too mellow sounding for me. So there you have it, I want large diameter pipes, louder than V&H Monsters, but not drag pipe loud (obnoxious police attention getters) Are there better choices than Rinehart 4" pipes? Sound off please....