Pictures of coffins of the dead American soldiers

We get some US networks here, but I've never seen them report it.
The only thing I've seen is on a website (can't remember which one) which lists the soldiers names and their photographs on one long page. It's quite powerful to see the names and faces behind the numbers, especially since most of the soldiers that died were much younger than me (some of them barely out of their teens).
 
Yes, It would be a public service to show the reality of war. I know that showing coffins is not what the political right wants but the public has a need to know.
 
I don't ever even remember hearing of John Kerry during Viet Nam but I am aware of his anti-war activism after his service. I only remember that because it was so publicized in the last election.

What Jane Fonda did, however, was unforgivable....well, almost. I suppose we are supposed to forgive. I am having trouble with that. I see she has recently apologized. Still, I think what she did was dispicable.
 
I agree, the Suits in Washington would not let the military win the war........You had neutral and no fire zones....It was ridiculous............
 
I think very few Vietnam vets will ever accept her apolgy and it was never actually to the vets..........It was sort of for going to Nam......

Kerry tothis day has not made his form 180 public that gives details of his service in Nam.........I doubt if he ever will............

How one vet could insult his fellow veterans is beyond me.....
 
The coffins should be shown. People should know the real cost of the war. Real people are dying, they have names and faces and are not just numbers.
 
Telling is different then seeing it should be plastered for all americans to see everytime they turn around. Just like the mother in Micheal Moores farenhight 911 people argued with her until she put a human face on the loss. Untill people can see what the cost is they will be only numbers. As they say out of sight out of mind.
 
I think as in all wars young men and women die, things don't always go according to plan.......

I don't think we planned to lose 6,000 men on Omaha Beach in one day in the Normandy invasion........I did not need to see these brave mens coffins to believe it.........

There is and old saying........."War is hell." and its very true.....



What truth is being kept from you? :confused:
 
Fonda was a political activist against our actions in Vietnam. She appeared in filmed instances in Vietnam with N. Vietnamese military nationals advocating the futility of our actions in efforts to expose our political moral corruption. Vietnam was not a declared war, which meant she was exercising her freedom of speech right without providing aid and comfort to an enemy.

Kerry's Vietnam experience and opinions were well-documented prior to the last national election.

'Baby Killers' was an anti-war protester term applied to military members returning from Vietnam. Many historians agree it was derived from photojournalist efforts showing dead, disfigured Vietnamese babies resulting from napalm bombing. During the Vietnam conflict uncensored live news reporting with unedited film was the norm and carried by all network TV and printed media.

As one who viewed it as an adult, I can tell you it was very graphic, showing all the details that encompass the horrors of war. Historians are also in agreement that uncensored news reporting of the Vietnam conflict was the primary ingredient in turning the US public against our actions in Vietnam. Free press is now a subjective term.
 
I'm split.

On the one hand, there's no moral reason they shouldn't be shown (They're coffins...), but on the other hand I know a main reason they would be shown is to rouse support against the war, as opposed to commemorating the dead.
 
He forgot to tell you :rolleyes: that Fonda actually sat on a gun mount in Hanoi that was used to shoot down our pilots and that when Fonda met with POWs they handed her notes to be carried back to the U.S. and she gave them to the NVN..............

He also forgot to tell you that when Kerry testified before congress that he called Vietnam Vets murderers, rapists, and baby killers and that he himself burned and razed villages in free fire zones which if true is a war crime and he should have been prosecuted for it........

What a very selective memory George has..... :rolleyes:
 
Likewise, I didn't need to see pictures of the coffins to get the impact of the weekly death count in Vietnam.

It's at the Memorial Wall, where you see the individual names of each of the 58,178 fallen soldiers that you begin to fathom the sacrifice. (That is, if you're not an unappreciative lump of flesh like so many of the weak minded are.)
 
No, I provided an unbiased statement on her primary protest activity in response to a posted question, something you seem unable to accomplish regardless of the subject. Who cares if she sat on a gun mount? And I'd think the N. Vietnamese who hosted her visit made it a condition that she wouldn't be a mail delivery person. She did nothing against the laws of her country. Have you ever viewed anything in a rational manner without letting blind emotion scramble your brain?

On a personal basis, I didn't care what she did. That was her right and obligation as an American citizen. And, as an American citizen, I'd prefer the same, uncensored news reporting in Iraq as was provided for Vietnam. But we all know that's not in the carRAB with our very secretive government.
 
Unbiased!!!! what a joke that is.......

Maybe you don't care what she did because she is a left winger like you but the pilots who got shot down by that gun care.........

Don't know where you got that, probably from some left wing website bbut if she was to turn the notes over to the NVN then she should have not accepted them from the POWs........Her reward for doing that was getting the POWs beaten............I know you don't care about that though......They are just military people who you have the utmost contempt for..........

As for your last sentence my little socialist friend...........ROTFLMAO........
 
I have been to that wall 4 times..........I have 4 frienRAB who's names are on that wall 2 very good ones, and every time I go there I break down and cry.......What hurts more then anything else is because of left wing people like John Kerry and Jane Fonda they died in vain..

May they be with God and rest in peace..........
 
I don't think you need to actually see the bodies to know men and women are dying there..............

It is just a ploy of the left to turn public opinion against completing our mission in Iraq as they did in Vietnam........
 
Ahhh just as I thought you do believe that there is something wrong with the mission to begin with otherwise why not show the bodies.

Besides there are people out there that are clueless about events they are the ones that need reminding.
 
A picture of the coffin does little for me. I'd rather see a picture of the soldier, along with his/her full name and hometown.

Anyone with half a brain can see that the liberal anti-war argument is served by daily proof of death which is all they are interested in. I say forget showing the coffins, show the soldiers in dress uniform, along with their names and hometowns.


Liberalism is a mental disorder!
 
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