Phantom Of The Opera Dvd Fault

Now I saw this warning in my local Safeway when I bought the DVD and I thought no probs because I have the necessary gear and I've played DTS discs before, but I still had to go to setup before it would play. :confused:
 
I do agree somewhat. The 'Wishing You Were Somehow Here Again' scene for example. It is a nice song and there is no way that they could conceivably cut it from the film, but it takes up five minutes to say what could be achieved in a few lines of dialogue. On stage it works well, but I just didn't feel it translated well to film.

Having said that Ms Rossum's cleavage displaying dress made that scene not entirely worthless :D

I cannot bear to watch the bits where it goes all MTV and you hear the singing but they are not singing (like when she enters the mirror).

I love the score, and both the OLC and the Film Soundtrack are among my favourite albums but I do agree that some of it doesn't translate to film.
 
Because (from the 1925 version) there are nooses set around the dungeon to capture people in the dark, keeping your hand at eye level gives you scope to escape should the noose close around your neck.

This is better covered in the 1925 silent movie based on the same book. The 1925 version in general concentrates on the horror, torture and detective aspects of the story, where as Webber's version takes more interest in the love triangle. I think the scene with Raoul in the hall of mirrors at the end of the masquerade ball is partly a tribute to the 1925 version.
 
Yep, the warbling and possibly the drop-outs are due to the 24 frames per second to PAL 25 frames per second speed-up transfer, and indeed the region 3 dvd has a fantastic soundtrack, no warbling, no drop outs... although the image is somewhat compromised by the 6 repeated frames per second due to ntsc being 30fps! Grrr... bring on 24fps DVD!!! :D lol
 
Have you seen the 1925 version? Its really hard to find apparently. I know all the die hard film buRAB think its better than the ALW version. Probably because it keeps more to the original story. There are loaRAB of different versions of POTO though, and they are all different in some way. There is even a Hammer Horror version, and there is Phantom of The Pheonix which was made in the 70's and set in a nightclub rather than an opera house.

Has anyone else noticed that during POTO when The Phantom is taking Christine down to his lair that she appears to lose some of her clothes in that short space of time. Her hair is also more tousled and she is wearing more make up. I know this is probably deliberate, but I just find it ammusing. The whole film is so camp, its almost like they are taking the piss slightly. I also love the so called "orgasmic" facial expressions on Christine's face during MOTN and PONR.

Brilliant, I love it. But I can see why some of the diehard fans don't.
 
I have seen the 1929 version but not the 1925. I think it's the version that Brownlow and Gill restored, and was shown on Channel 4 a few years back with a new Carl Davies score. An interesting movie. Ironically Mary Philbin (who played Christine Daae in 1925/1929) attended the US premier of the ALW stage show in/around 1986.
 
The R3 disk arrived this morning, so I had a very quick look at it.

Yes, the picture is slightly jerkier, the Dolby Digital soundtrack is EX instead of normal 5.1, and the DTS is 96/24, which my amplifier handles, albeit by stepping things down a bit. But it feels better to have a version that plays completely. Have not even got disk 2 out of the packaging yet.

I hope that the UK/R2 distributors realise what a mess their release is, and that they get it remastered and re-issued pretty damn quick.
 
Yes the graveyard scene did appear to drag on a bit, especially in the cinema but thankfully it quickly picked up again. But I do love Masquearde, its like a song and dance number from one of the old Hollywood musicals.

I will say that Christine is extremley dosile, and at times I feel like giving her a slap.
 
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I have also noticed the problems on the DVD, another place was when we see the Phantom in the rafters around the time Bouquet's killed.

After doing a search on the net to see if I was the only one with this problem I found a number for EIV and gave them a ring, I urge you to all do the same, as someone else said, they might release a newer version with these problems fixed if enough of us complain.
The number is 02079307766. They said they had had others call about it to and "would look into it" they did take my details, but I haven't heard back.

Also, what would you recomend about the region3 version, it worth gettting or shall I just put up with it, is the picture quality noticibly different?

Thanks
 
I like the masquearde scene- but also like the ending-amazing love the song-"past the point of no return" so excellent. The graveyard is such a bore, the swordfight how sad.
 
Ditto with the Masquerade ball, and also Il Muto Christine has no obvious make up AT ALL. Its a freaking STAGE PERFORMANCE. Ditto PONR. :)
 
LOL
Do you know, I have seen this movie a few times now and I never noticed the Hanibal makeup until I saw a picture on the net the other day, and then I saw this reply.
I did notice that as Christine descented her make up got darker

I have seen the 1925 version but I really didnt get on with it, of course the fact that it had modern music (switcblade symphony) might of had a lot to with it, I ended up muting the sound and just watching/reading. :eek:
 
The R3 version is very good, just be aware that it's in NTSC rather than PAL. (see djsky's post #33 in this thread)

The running time of the R3 version is slightly longer, because the UK version runs at 25 fps and the NTSC is adapted from a 24 fps source, but the picture quality is good on both. The UK version was either frequency-shifted to keep it the same pitch as the NTSC version, or (more likely judging from the warbling effects) had millions of very short sections of sound cut out in the deluded hope that it would not be noticed.

The R3 version is easily better in terms of sound (no audio cut-outs or warbling, not many people will benefit from the DTS 96/24).
The UK version is better for extras ("making of" documentaries)

Neither version has any form of audio commentary.

Take your pick, but the ideal solution is probably to buy both lol.
 
I love the Point of No Return aswell but once again Christine irrtates me. She's supposed to look turned on and hypnotised, but she just has the kind of look on her face that she'd have if she saw an attractive bloke walk down the street.

Emmy Rossum is not a very good actress, a great singer but her acting leaves alot to be desired. I cared for The Phantom far more than Chrstine, even though you should pity her for being an orphan and alone in the world she just comes across as being silly.
 
Thanks Tadpole
I have now ordered a region 3 one too!

Heck the film's so good I need a backup copy anyway and it really does deserve to have the best sound quality :p

Im now eagerly awaiting delivery of the rg3 one to play nice and loud :)
 
I watched the DVD again last night and noticed a really big goof! After the Point of No Return when the chandelier crashes on the audience when some of them are trying to get away you can see safety knee paRAB on two of the women. They are really obvious.

Apparently this is one of several Goofs in the film.
 
Something else I noticed, during Masquearde the conductor bloke is standing on the balcony wearing a mask and conducting as everyone else sings and dances.

And after MOTN Christine looses her stockings, looks closely when she gets out of the swan bed, her legs are bare. Yet when she is in the boat on the way down to The Phantom's lair we got an eyeful of her lacey stayups :eek:.
 
If you think about it, it was more based around the Phantom then Christine. Plus you said you felt sorry for the Phantom was that because Christine didnt pick him? Is that why you dislike Christine?

Emmy Rossum was alright doubt she be in any other movies.
 
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