*OFFICIAL THREAD: Nokia N97

And that's contingent on you using the phone as the primary video playback device. As good as it is, it can still only supplement my 160GB iPod classic, since I just have way too much music and video to fit on even 32GB.

For me, the most important features are: 1) the basic phone functionality, 2) the camera, and 3) the internet browsing and widgets
 
Much is said about this handwriting recognition thing being important to Asian people and it's generally accepted that Nokia uses resistive touch for this reason. Well, if it was that important, they would be using electronic writing pads instead of a regular keyboard on their computers.

I'm pretty sure any language can be well served with a qwerty keyboard like the N97 has. So the decision for resistive, in my opinion, has little to do with handwriting recognition.
 
Just because you get older, doesn't mean you can't play videogames. My grandfather bought a PSone with the flip-up LCD screen when he was 74. A lot of games are fun for all ages.
 
This thread is becoming interesting! Arguments are fun to read as long as they are valid! Come on, we are all adults here, don't know about people who are using aggressive language.

Now back to N97 which is this thread all about, the wait is killing me too. Even though I'm audiophile, I sold my Nokia 5800 which is the only Nokia phone sounded equal or better then N91 IMO. The reason I sold it because the camera sucks and I really need FM transmitter! I only paid 200$ for it and sold it for 310$ and the profit will go towards N97! :)

I'm worried about dead pixels, it's a huge screen! dead pixels annoy me!
 
Keep your expectations low and you won't be disappointed. For instance, I think that a qwerty with only 3 rows will be hell on Earth, but let's see.
 
There aren't multiple 32GB phones on the roadmap, so doubtful that Ivalo can be anything but N97 (which fits every category). Eitri is comparable but less storage (just says "more than 8GB").

That thing COULD well be Eitri, though:

"Landscape candybar with QWERTY, 3.5-inch 640?350 display, minimum 8GB ROM, microSD, pressure sensitive touch UI with tactile feedback and gestures, charging via USB, 5MP AF camera with dual LED flash, integrated compass and accelerometer, proximity sensor, FM transmitter"

Also has a slightly increased OS version apparently. Still only looks like 5 visible widgets, though, unfortunately enough for certain folks around here. Maybe another page hidden somewhere? :)

If it's touch-only candybar, it could certainly explain the reduced dimensions, otherwise identical to N97. N87?
 
I have a feeling the new iPhone will have OMAP 3430 or in that class of hardware.

So this battle's really heating up. In fact at this point with the Pre, the Omnia HD, and probably Apple, it would be a disappointment if the N97 did not keep up.

I wonder if we have any informed assessment of the TI chip in the N97 FCC pics.

It seems unlikely though given the published specs of the phone.
 
You're talking a little crazy here. When the initial iphone debuted steve jobs stood on stage and flicked his finger to demonstrate the innovative flick to scroll kinetic scrolling, and it received huge applause. And those videos were all over the net. So yeah actually they DID make a huge deal out of it. And rightfully so, its an awesome innovation on apple's part. But they certainly bragged about it.
 
For the short answer go to the bottom, nobody has to read the essay.

Nice question. I really don't know. But I do know that personally for me having gone from N-series to E-series was the best transition for me.

Since you asked my serious opinion, I guess I will give it to you.

I don't care for any phone camera. Not to be a snob, but for the purposes I need a camera if I can take a picture of a document and later read it, that is all I need. A better camera is nicer but it is not a priority in the least. None of them even touch a basic $100 P&S so if it takes an image that is half-way decent it's enough for me.

Music player is nice but not critical. I never used it on the E66 and the N95 was frankly a bad music player. It sounded bad. I carry the iPhone these days and still don't use the music player except once a week for 10 minutes at best. So I have 8GB card mostly filled with Maps, but I never use that application ever. Google maps FTW.

What I NEED:

Push E-mail - both E66 and iPhone are great in that basic sense. I haven't tried BB but it must be great for messaging in general. So that is an option.

Within E-mail and PIM lies all my current fundamental needs.

The BB is very strong contender here, and the only thing that has stopped me is the BB tax. Since I switch my SIM back and forth I don't pay the Apple tax either. I know it's risky but when I bought it I added the iPhone plan to my account but for some reason it didn't go through.

I currently pay for hosted exchange so I would hate to pay again for a messaging service. But If I could get over that a BB might be the way to go.

Surprisingly the iPhone 3.0, while being a pain to use in most situations: press button, swipe to unlock, press e-mail, wait, click on e-mail, view e-mail, has the hints of something big.

Maybe BB is just as good on these fronts so let me know if that is true. But it recognizes names in general and fills them in for you, it seems to pull out names from your contacts as you enter them in an appointment or inside an e-mail or message.

What it hints at to me is the eventual integration of contacts with everything else. So if I click on that person's name in the calendar or inside an e-mail or SMS I can then see that persons contacts entry in full or even better yet a listing of all activities planned with that person plus all their pertinent info like default number, notes or to-dos involving that person, e-mail to or from or even mailing address all in one page. I want to click on a recognized name and see EVERYTHING I have associated with that person. I mean every connection I have in this universe to that person and to just show it all to me at once.

In a sense Spotlight already kind of allows that, but without the auto-generated links in documents on the device.

But guess who I think will be closest to the vision first. I think it will be Palm. I think that device is going to change the way we view and communicate with people. The way it is smart enough to recognize live and stored data about people wherever that data comes from and presents it to you at once is simply brilliant.

It moves completely away from the way everyone else looks at data. While everyone else is focused on Facebook or Twitter or OVI or the source of the data and where it comes from, Palm changes the paradigm. Now you see everything as related to a person, an event, or an activity rather than where the data came from. The whole concept is amazing IMHO.

For now the iPhone 3.0 sort of seems to hinting at copying elements from Palm but this is a stopgap until I get my hands on that Pre.

I've seen videos of that thing, and it does not close applications. It just lets you open whatever you want as many as you want (not 5) and lets you switch between so fast it's not even funny. This is like as many widgets as you want but each of them is much bigger and did I say you can have as many as you want? It even arranges them in a mini view so you can select the one you want. So this is widgets on steroids. This is what Nokia dreamt and Palm made.

Sure I lose the ability for developers to make binary applications but what really does it matter except for hard core geeks? I mean do you want the chemistry set or the chemicals? The end result is all that matters. They will find ways to open it up for new functions and uses as time goes by. Rome wasn't built in a day.


Palm Pre.
 
Maybe I don't know enough about resistive screen technology but if it's pressure sensitive how can glass be used effectively? I watched most videos on N97 on youtube and if my eyes didn't lie I saw some light scratches on one of the demo units.
 
A lot of us are just bitter because we've watched Nokia run S60 into the ground over the last few years. And really, who's going to blame us for that?
 
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