tsk tsk tsk, you can mess with the Idou mang. Sure they up't the megapixels to 12, sure it might not mean anything to you, but this is Sony Ericsson!! You can't mess with their CyberShots. I can care less about Carl Zeiss lens, til now, I haven't found a phone that can compare in camera options/feature/quality than my current SE K850i, this phone is gangsta when it comes to taking pictures. The C905 already was better, so I can't imagine what the Idou will be like, but like you said, im just talking camera spec... I need much much more in a phone, starting with 64GB =D