*OFFICIAL THREAD: Nokia N97

If that's the case, it shouldn't be launched. Both the 5800 and N97 should have been/should be held until the OS is fully touch-ized.

Nokia may be happy that the 5800 has sold millions of units, but I think it's a pyrrhic victory. Millions of people are going to have 5800s and I'm sure some of those millions may actually compare their 5800s to a friend's iPhone. At that point, they won't give a crap about any technical reasons the 5800 may be better... they'll just know the iPhone is easier to use and 'feels' better. And then the 5800 becomes 'the last nokia I bought' for a lot of those people.
 
Yes black ones are shipping, so far only confirmed for pre orders, If someone orders today with overnight and get it in 48 hours? Do you work for Nokiausa.com? We all have had a taste of their horrible customer service and I was making sure because the rep told me 15 min ago that ''It's not in stock'' 1-2 weeks to get to my door, so chill mate!!
 
OmniaHD is only $650 from that site?

I don't mean to be a downer, but anyone who paid more than that for an N97, I REALLY hope the phone has exactly what you want.
 
i dunno, i never had a white device whatsoever lol. but it would definitively show a lot more than a black device. for exemple a scratch, a black line on a white phone? hmmm
 
Yes 100%! That's exactly what we need. A gestures framework that any application can tap into. That means gadgets and applications and the home screen. Everything should be customizable with pre-programmed and custom gestures.

If they develop such a framework, iPhone will be left in the dust even in terms of interface. I really think they need multi-touch at least hidden in the system if they are worried about patent violations (I think it is BS that Apple can patent something like that). That way they can implement much faster typing on the keypad and more advanced gestures.

I noticed the 5800's double and triple tap functions. On the iPhone if you double tap on a text column it perfectly resizes that column to fill the width of the screen. The N97 needs that.

I really think gestures are the way forward for touch screen devices. Even better is when the screens get pressure sensitive so you can have different functions for light touch or hard touch.
 
It depends. For example if you follow Amazon's price tag for the Nokia 5800, it started to 399, then down to 350 then up to 389 or something and then down to 300, last week it was 330 -$50 mail in rebate if I remember correctly.

Is not gonna go for more than $699 thats for sure, plus there is no question that the current $604 is amazing deal to pre-order. It is almost $100 of the retail price.
 
At least with S60, it requires a sliver of a brain to allowinstalling unsigned applications, and then finding the applications you want or patching them out yourself.

The iPhone has a ridicurously point and click method. A retarded hamster could do it.
 
Thanks a lot for your answers...I really don't want to suscribe to AT&T but I just might do that for the 3G...I might buy an iphone, sell it for $600 on ebay and keep the contract for the n97...hehehe
 
It has already been established in this thread that you can cancel orders. I wont complain if the difference is within 2 weeks, I am getting a headset as well anyway plus payed less than 600 including taxes and shipping.
 
You can do the math this way. You can use the N97 with MediaNet Unlimited for $15/month. The iPhone requires the $30 data plan.

So, N97 is $699 (at the most), versus the iPhones at $99/199/299+$360 (the difference in data cost over 2 years).

Since they both have 32gb's, it's only fair to compare the $299 price, so you're looking at $699 vs $660 or so, and that doesn't factor in the places where you can get the N97 for less.
 
On your own blog post you said it's shipping on June 2nd, not arriving! You got even MY hopes up!

N95 shipped March 22nd and was available from Nokia flagship stores April 4th. That's almost a two week difference in and of itself, much less how long it will take to get to retailers in the US.

I'm not trying to rain on the parade, just trying to keep it real. I'm not even buying one, so I'd much rather be the only guy who was wrong than read about how pissed you guys get if you get your hopes up for a date that's 2+ weeks off.

I assumed the worst for the release of the NAM 5800 and thought it would be out in late January. I bit the bullet anyway and got a Euro import in late November. With the initial late February release, 3G issues, getting pulled off the shelves, having it re-released a few weeks later, and preorder customers getting theirs a month after everyone else, it turned out to be even worse than I imagined!
 
You're right. They realized what utter crap the browser is and focused on fixing that and hence they show off little things in the browser like that in EVERY video like they discovered the fountain of youth or something. For every thing they finally did right there are still 3 things that are wrong.

They only show you same thing they did right in every video. It's so stupid. It's like watching touch interface 101 class run by a clown as a professor.

These people take forever to really make any changes on a system wide level. For 2 years the work was in producing the interface we see on the 5800. The next 6 months brought us minor changes in the browser which they brag about to no end. It all reeks of a very piecemeal, patchy approach to the fundamental problem of: Hey Nokia your interface sucks!

They still have solved basic problems of touch sensitivity, efficient use of scree real estate, menus without scroll bars, scroll that actually works, among other issues.

The way he was showing off the stupid swipe on the home screen makes me want to take an iPhone and slam it into his cranium so he understands that it isn't really that much of a novelty anymore. What a ****ing loser, showing off his joke of a design.
 
Any thoughts on the OMAP 3430 rumor?


The OmniaHD videos looked amazing.

If this phone has it, I'm going to be standing in line at the Nokia store at launch again.
 
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