*OFFICIAL THREAD: Nokia N97

The S60 player for Hava allows you to see the content and full screen on the 5800 but you can't control the device since the player doesn't support touch. The d-pad and keyboard of the N97 should allow the Hava player to work right out of the box which is good for me. Hopefully one of you pre-order people have a Hava box to see how well this works. ;)
 
Are we back to the numbers game AGAIN? The same way clock speed does not directly indicate user interface or ACTUAL processing speed, amounts of RAM do NOT indicate how the OS handles or addresses the available memory.

Instead of hammering you with information, such as the iPhone's kernel does not use external modules (kext's). It's all stuffed and compiled in, regardless if it's going to be used. Does that affect it?

As far as I know, Symbian has a 'microkernel', EKA2. The modules sit in a userspace-type environment and are loaded when requested. This allows integration layers.

A device that has proper code, can make use of half the amount of RAM than one that has hackney calls and kludge-code.

Shut up if you don't know what you're talking about and only want to whine and bash.
 
The 5800 is not N-series. It is stupid to compare it with the n95. The 5800 does not have n-gage for a reason. It is primarily a music phone that can play movies and take pictures. Before you pull out the s60v5 argument, consider the classes of phone that all run s60v3 and tell us they all perform the same.
 
Ok, cool; I figured it must have something along those lines given the 36 hour music playback time.

I also just read on AAS that it does in fact have an FM Transmitter.
 
And still no flash. WTF? They seriously always hold back some sort of hardware so they can upgrade it in the future so that it seems "new". Ever wonder why they are the last MP3 player to have an integrated FM tuner??

Come on Apple, put your best foot forward, once, just once.
 
True, but I only recall past Sony Ericsson phones that I've used as having the UIQ.3 variant of Symbian which I did not favor at all in comparison to S60.

In addition, the performance of the P990 was the most terrible user experience I have ever experienced in a phone to this day and had left me with a bit of a grudge against SE. The P1i was a slight improvement over the P990 for overall OS stability and performance, but not much in regards to the OS being the same.

While the Satio does look interesting, I always prefer to have a tactile qwerty keypad.
 
@rapidstar

When you say

"But if you look at N97, it got the high CPU compared to any N series released till date. Am i right? So, I wouldn't call it fail."

IMO you are wrong the OMAP2420 including the Power VR graphics processor as first seen in the N93 all the way back in 2006 is IMO far superior to the processor and graphics found in the Nokia flagship of 2009 even if it may have a slightly higher clock rate.

As we all know clock rate alone is no way to judge a device or it's overall performance but without a decent processor and graphics which are the heart and soul of your device it's performance is going to be limited by what they can do. As for this highly optimised firmware that once again is just marketing BS, yeah it' so highly optimised they forgot to get around to fixing the Call log issue or really bothering to update or fix the browser highly optimised my arse.

Having had a little while with a i8910HD that had all the latest and greatest spec's and it was fast you know what there really has been such little change in S60 over the last few years it's sad. Now with the SF road map revealed it looks like no real changes are coming till late 2010 to mid 2011 maybe I'll check it out again then but for now i have completely lost interest in
Nokia and S60. This is radical change from 2006 -2008 in which time i bought 7 Nokia's and most of the time had 2. So to quote from one of my favourite books and TV shows "Goodbye and thanks for all the fish"

Marc
 
It boots up and works fine. I can just faintly see the "NOKIA" logo everywhere. I tried taking out the battery for a while, still there. It seems the "NOKIA" logo is only visible when I'm using the "Nseries 2" general theme so I can only see it when the screen is gray. Its very evident when it transitions from portrait to landscape and the screen is full gray for a split second. Not good.

I've seen some ghosting on my N95 before but thats only when I power off or remove the battery. Strange
 
I totally agree with this statement. Steve Jobs and his marketing team have that power. :doh: But it's alright, this is one diehard NOKIA fan who can live without an iPhone. ^__^

Also, the link I posted earlier about pre-ordering the N97 through Plemix has now been discontinued. I wonder why....
 
For sure. Unless SE miraculously avoids screwing up Idou, I could consider switching to that.... lack of keyboard will lead to hestitation and i'm not willing to wait until December for anything. iPhone 3G, G1, G2, Omnia all have unredeemable disqualifiers on one or more items

Otherwise I'll be with an N97 at least through 2010 regardless of a future N97 or N98 or whatever (I already speculated, I think the next Nokia move this year is a keyboardless N87 with 5.01 in the future based on that one pic posted about 20 pages back or so along with the Nokia roadmap posted various places).
 
You keep stating this about the 5800, and I'm certain that you had a bad experience with it. I personally think it's a great value for the money.
 
Some of their phones? So far, Nokia has exactly one 8MP camera phone. The N97 is more than a worthy upgrade over the N95. The E71 was a worthy upgrade over the N95 for me.

I think you guys still put too much weight into the cameras when deciding to buy a phone. If you want a camera, go buy a camera. If you want a kick *** phone, look at the phone features.
 
I know, I did not point any1 here. I know this symbian OS is still immature, but I was more then satisfied with my 5800, the only touch screen I was able to use easily for text messaging with haptic feedback. Different people, different opinion, but it's hard to say experience is going to be the exact same for a retail unit, plus things improve drastically with fw updates.
 
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