*OFFICIAL THREAD: Nokia N97

Both sides have a point.

1. Yes there will always be a better gadget x amount of time down the road. That's just the nature of electronics.

2. Like the N97, the next Nokia flagship will probably also be missing some feature that they should have included and easily could have included, something that the competition has and will use to their advantage.
 
Ok, I managed to install Tomtom Mobile 6.02 but it doesn't startup. Tried installing on both the phone and memory card. Can anyone else confirm this?
 
I had my N95 for the same amount of time and I was just bored of it and with all of the text messages and emails I was sending, I really needed a QWERTY keyboard. That's why I picked up the E71 (when it comes down to it, it's a really anal sibling to the N95: A lot more serious, does a lot of the same stuff as it's younger brother but doesn't have nearly enough fun doing it)
 
Hardware will definitely be OMAP 3430 class. That's a given.

Sure I like the N-series and now the E-series, but you haven't tried S60v5. I'll take an N86 any day of the week over an N97. That's all I mean to say about the N97.

What i also believe is that if at this point in time in terms of the market, if you are going to come out with a touch screen product you better make it innovative. There are a lot of different ways to manipulate data on a flat glass slab and Nokia's thought on the concept has been weak to put it simply. Even Microsoft is trying harder these days. I found their new Today screen very inspiring.

Granted Widgets may turn out to be a great idea, but I'd rather not pay $800 to join that 1 year (minimum) beta test.
 
Homescreen looks extra crispy;

Settling for black might not be so bad after all. Still like white better though.

One question-what is that huge sensor that's the leftmost on the top of the phone? I don't recall ever reading what it was and why it's so visible.
 
I would agree with that because that was the feel of the N95 when it first came out. At the time NO ONE had a 5mp camera with such high video recording, GPS was only available on WM phones, and WLAN was still unavailable on most other devices. The N95 did all this in one package and it took at least a year before anyone could match its specs (the i900 did, but with WM :hurl: ).

If you keep that experience in mind and try to look for something that is most similar, the Pre does this for software and the i8910 does this for hardware. The N97 kinda does this, but doesn't take more steps forward where others have already and delivers some of the same components we saw with that same N95 launch from 2007.
 
The screen's -kinda- bigger. It will be noticeably longer than the screen on the iPhone, but having a thinner width will make it look smaller on the larger body and the actual surface area of the iPhone's screen is larger than the screen on the N97. I did a little math and came up with the exact dimensions of the two screens (and the screens on the 5800XM, OmniaHD, and N810 Internet Tablet if anyone's interested) and here's a sizeasy on how they stack up.

For iPhone vs N97, you're comparing black to green.

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The truth is that S60 memory management is so good that they really don't need it. Just try it on a S60 phone. Open 20 applications and have them all running. Use a program to check free memory. Odds are you'll still have a good bit left.

Contrast that with the iPhone which is begging for 256MB. In fact if the iPhone doesn't have that kind of RAM then I doubt it will have true multitasking. That thing can barely run 2-3 things without something closing as it stands now.

But that processor is weak. People say this and that, but I've had this speed of slow *** web browsing 3.5 years ago in the N93 - there is no substantial difference between that experience and today's experience on S60 browsing. I put up with it then because it was new then to even have a capable browser on a phone. In all this time they don't even bother improving how fast pages render? It takes a damn long time to load a big page. That is a fact, the rendering is so slow that a PC with dial up beats it - and you all know it.

Wi-Fi is better but you have to wonder what the hold up is with 3G browsing. Is the CPU struggling to handle the connection and render? I mean I get sometimes as high 1600kbps via speedtest on it. Using the 3G connection while tethering is pretty fast.

So what could be the hold up? All of you who think CPU doesn't matter go ask yourself that simple question.

The iPhone browser is faster already, wonder what it will do with ARM A8. They benched the thing and it performs slightly less than 4 cores of ARM11.

http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache...IPS&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a

http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache...IPS&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a


The real kicker is the all 4 ARM11 cores have to run at 620MHz to even get that. The N97 is 70% of that speed so 4 of those would be about 1820 and one would be 455.

So these new A8's are 5 times as capable.


Anyway, **** I ain't so sure what I want in my phone this year. Maybe I'll be the... I mean take the slow one. I love Nokia so much.
 
IR only found useful with the app called ir remote. It will control any dvd, tv or stereo by looking online for the proper code. The only useful thing to me would be at the bar when you wanna switch the channel you just take out your phone and confuse the bartender to put on the game you wanna watch lol.
 
Well, they all had 3G, and the main reason why people took even the 384kbps limited N75 over EGDE was that you really cannot use data to do anything and have a reliable phone also.

You can't browse. I had an N90 and N93 and N95 without US 3G and you will miss calls. IMHO, even the using the browser isn't compatible with having a reliable phone without 3G. Maybe that's an extreme view but IME that's how it was.

Add things like push e-mail or even running background apps that use the network and it makes the phone even more unreliable. Sure in the N97 you have for the first time an expectation of having 24/7 internet connectivity even for the most basic standby screen of the phone. So I think really depends on how reliable you want your phone to be. For me I want every call to come through no matter what I am doing.

I sometimes needed to tether on EDGE, and you will miss all your calls if you do so. At that time the phones didn't have NAM 3G.

But I agree that with live updating you have to have 3G.
 
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