*OFFICIAL THREAD: Nokia N97

You make me feel better coz may be it's the design.Have you used Nokia 5800 before? Nokia 5800 and N97 have same exact haptic feedback, but I think my N97 vibration noise is not normal, you are right it's cheap. Is there any way to slow down the vibration? My n85 started doing that, I could hear vibration from 10 meters away and what I did, I threw the phone few times on the pillow and vibration sound became normal.Also, I'm disappointed with the keyboard, the reviews were right, all the keys have different feedback, some are very shallow, top row keys are a joke, Nokia are you serious? It's not 200$ phone!
 
ok, this might be a little out there, but do you think if I ordered a dummy version of the N97, it would feel similar to the real thing? Like as far as keyboard feels?
 
And with a price of $1159 U.S?

They might want to update they're specs a little too.. "HSDPA 900 / 2100 MHz (3G Is NOT Compatible In US & CA)"
 
oh and btw,

N97 MAY have some hardware video acceleration courtesy of Toshiba chip. FCC official papers/photos showed a leaked chipset that someone on the net blew up and I searched its codes and looks like its an older power-frugal video accelerator which may work on-demand when needed. I've lost where I found it but it may be there so don't fret yet.

Also Nokia Forums has been known to make a mistake on CPU before. Besides even at the same speed, this single ARM 11 CPU may be called "SINGLE" because cores are not designed seperately or from a developers view the cores act as a single cpu??

Like Blaxx said on this page many of us truely don't know about ARM's, LEGs, VTEC's and Honda's & chitty chitty bang bangs; but if it works and fast and does what its supposed to do without lag then its WORTH it.
 
this video makes me want the phone RIGHT NOW!!! :goodness:
Too bad I have to wait until Amazon stock replenishes on the 25th...well at least that gives me time to get n sell an iphone on ebay to fund my n97
 
Very interesting. I didnt know they spent that much amount of time focusing on the slide alone. Toning down the processor offsets the R&D of the overall device Dollarwise. Makes sense.
 
From my experience with the 5800 it works well. Should be even better on the N97 since it has a bigger screen. :2thumbs: One gripe though, the check mark button that lets it know you're finished typing is all the way up in the top left corner. Why couldn't they leave all the buttons in the same general area? It's kind of hard to reach way up there.
 
yea there isn't that much, but i'm a buttons kind of guy. i kind of need the buttons, so this is perfect. however, i'm not a qwerty guy lol
 
I know that i'm going to get ALOT of abuse for writing this, but oh well, here goes:
I've noticed alot of people complaining about one thing or another in this thread (ok, other threads too, but this seems to be one of the worst for it!) and basically saying that whatever "fault" they're pointing out is down to Nokia's inability, laziness or whatever else.
I'd just like to ask you to stop for a moment and consider the possibility that your idea's of how things "should" be are not necessarily everyone's!
The idea of having one screen for widgets and another as a "privacy" screen for instance seems to have caused some controversy. Personally I prefer this idea, and no its not because I have lots of things that I particularly want to hide from anyone, but it makes sense to be able to keep some things "private". And before anyone says "But why not have 2 or more screens for widgets AND the privacy screen, consider battery life. Yes it may not make a huge difference to the amount of drain put on the battery, but that would surely depend on which particular widgets you pick to use on these multiple home screens? And wouldn't that also impact on performance?
Which brings me onto another point, the CPU! Yes its not the latest and greatest, and maybe by a long way, but do numbers really mean that much without actually seeing the final product with optimised firmware in action? And the negatives of using a newer chip would surely be a higher priced phone and lower battery life? Now lets consider than these handsets are aimed at normal people that wouldn't care what CPU was used as long as everything runs relatively smoothly, but certainly would notice and complain about a higher price and shorter battery life!!
So basically what i'm saying is that what one person wants isn't the same as what another wants, and Nokia have to appeal to as many people as possible and still make a decent profit on their sales. Don't get me wrong, obviously yes, some of what is being said here DOES make sense, but rather than just complain on this forum, how many of you have actually sent your suggestions to Nokia so that they can actually make a difference?
Right, i've gotten all carried away so i'll end it there. I've no doubt i'll get some responses to this, good and bad, but I had to get it off my chest :)
 
As it's been said several times already, the next gen processors feature advanced power saving capabilities which are not available on the older ARM11 architecture. That means faster speeds with less power consumption, so battery life is not a reason to not use An older processor.
 
I should have said the submenu. They did actually create folders in the menu to not need any scrolling, but hit the left softkey and why are there so many items there that you need to scroll in a submenu? Only the browser pops up a visual menu. Why can't they make all native apps do that? Then 3rd parties can use that as a template for their apps' behavior. We shouldn't have to scroll in tiny submenu on the bottom left corner when there is a whole screen sitting there idle.
 
That's interesting. But you have yet to articulate your reasons for wanting this phone so badly.

The reason some of us are so tempered by all this hype is that we've seen it all before. As a long time S60 user I have read all this hype from Nokia and a lot of it was crazy cool. I mean I've seen the videos where they talk about a future with constant connectivity, automatic switching, UIs that are better than anything we've seen, Haptics that use clear artificial muscle to make virtual keys turgid to feel like real keys, the Nokia Aeon, the new touchscreen communicator rendering and a whole host of others.

So just from experience some of us know that this whole secretive thing about not releasing information about the device is not because they have some secret weapon out there, but rather that they just have to hide the sorry truth about their latest flagship device not being competitive with other company's flagships.

You might still like it, but everything it has is something we've already seen in the N95 or 5800. Whatever new software they put in it can't possibly make up for the fact that it is a N79/5800 hybrid with widgets and keyboard. I saw the video with my own eyes, and it runs like the 5800 and is pretty much as clunky of an interface. What's with that huge side menu in landscape mode that takes 25% of the screen area? That wasn't addressed from the 5800? One button in a corner or gesture to bring up a big menu would make more sense, but in general that interface blocks 25% of the screen in all menus and the browser!!! when in landscape mode. To go into full screen you need to enter the menu and go into full screen. To navigate (the word navigate would indicate that the controls are right there) back or forward or reload you need to tap to exit full screen and back into the 75% screen mode and then tap into a menu and then go back/forward/reload and then in that menu go back into full screen mode. Would it have killed them to put an auto-hide menu that appears when your finger reaches a corner?

If you said you AT LEAST tried the 5800 and liked it enough to want it with a keyboard, then I could see where you're coming from.

It is not my place to tell you not the like the 5800 if it works for you. But as it stands you don't even have experience with any S60v5 device.

Which is why many of us don't understand where your excitement comes from. This is device is a 5800 basically with a few tweaks. They may hype this and that up, but ultimately it is a 5800 with tweaks.

The 5800 is popular with the masses and it works well for some phone aficionados, but overall people who have some experience with other touch paradigms and modern touch screen technology rightfully find issues with it.

You may be picturing a N85 with a big screen or even an E71 with a huge 3.5" screen. But believe me that screen comes with a price. Navigating that phone is nothing like navigating S60v3. You will want to sharpen your nails in preparation.

If they could not develop a proper competitive touch paradigm they should have left a D-pad. That's all I ask for. It could have been the N85 or E71 with a 3.5" screen that we all dream of.
 
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