*OFFICIAL THREAD: Nokia N97

No resistive phone will be as responsive as the iPhone because you dont even need to press on it, just barely touching the screen registers. It can be overresponsive but the software takes care of understanding presses properly, although you can easily do things you dont want to do with accidental touches.

Honestly a resistive screen tuned well enough that gentle taps work as well as being speedy/implementing a form of multitouch would work best, as it would be easy to use and also prevent the user from doing things on accident.
 
I have to say try OS 3.0 for now and imagine it runner on a faster processor and with multitasking. It will be around in June. Personally I am between it and the Pre but going more for the Pre.

Safari has been stable in FW 2.2 it pretty much never crashed, but yesterday in OS 3.0 beta 5 crashed on me. The other betas did not crash on me.

I don't know but attachment support beats Nokia to the curb, even the old one OS 2.2 in Exchange was good. The attachments are right there on the bottom you just touch it and it just works. I use callwave as my VM provider so every voice mail I get I have to listen though e-mail as an attachment. having used both S60 (you need to go to options -> attachments -> download attachment -> and then click again to play the attachment) and iPhone, I found the iPhone to be much faster in that just one swipe to the bottom and click - the message plays.

Overall, I won't deny the slowness of this phone. It is slow, but at least it does not draw a page until it is ready for your input. The 5800 will draw the page but when you click it won't respond until it is done. If you compare both side by side you will see this. That having been said the 5800 is generally E71 fast in most things but it takes a while to load and also be ready for your input. I fully expect that a company like Apple using the Pre as a benchmark will get about 80% there with issues like speed and multitasking with the new hardware.

The truth as you say it is slow, but it is also very consistent. So even if I know I need to wait I know that I will get the result I want if I wait. If I try to rush things it is annoying because it is slow without a doubt, but still I will get what I want. With the 5800 IME, if you rush things on it or you go too fast for it, it will get confused and you will end up in a menu or setting you didn't expect.

For me personally, I am betting on the Pre without knowing anything but watching the nearly 45 minute video they released of it recently.

Anyway, I think either the new iPhone, or the Pre, or the Samsung l7500 are better bets than this. Rather I would try any of them first in my situation before trying the N97. Again that's just me.
 
I don't mean effectively in terms of the ability to use the bandwidth. That's a totally separate issue and that everyone knows mobile devices truly have a hard time fully utilizing the full bandwidth of their data connections.

I am talking about the spatial requirements, the physical requirements for more than one antenna and the effective spacing between them to effectively utilize the 802.11n standard. A typical cell phone has an antenna that supports four GSM frequencies, two or three WCDMA frequencies and 2.4GHz for Bluetooth and WiFi. The GSM and WCDMA antennas may be a single structure that supports all four bands, or five if it's a 2100MHz WCDMA device.

In order to utilize draft n the device needs multiple antennas. The typical implementation is 2x2 which will require two antennas that are both used for TX or both used for RX. The spacing between the antennas is key for operation where the antennas want to be at least half a wavelength which for 2.45GHz will be ~2.45" which is wider than the iPhone is currently. Perhaps you put one at the top and one at the bottom to provide more spatial separation but now you run the risk of decreased sensitivity and/or added noise due to the RF signals running next to your other radios and digital processors. You can run draft n at 5GHz as well which allows less separation, say ~1.12" for 1/2 wavelength spacing at 5250MHz, but now you need to add two 5GHz antennas into your device along with all the other antennas that are currently in your device. There are real improvements to n performance if the antennas are separated by 1 (4.82"@2.45GHz, 2.25"@5.25GHz) or even 1.5 wavelenths (7.23"@2.45GHz,3.38"@5.25GHz). Given the poor penetration and range of 5GHz this would be a horrible option for a mobile device.

Frankly, given Apple's inability to deliver good radio performance it doesn't bode well for a good performing n solution. This would be a challenge for any mobile manufacturer.



I find this hard to believe unless I saw the phone taken apart to see what they were doing. Every time you plugged in your headphones you would detune the antenna ring around that jack and the match on the antenna would change depending on how the wire was hanging, whether it was looped, etc. The digital signals coming from the optical sensor would make me cringe if I had to design an antenna to circle around the camera lens.
 
You have a good memory because I damn sure wouldn't look through all the pages on this thread! You live in a major city so you wouldn't need to drive more than one hour in any direction unless you wanted to. So how do you travel when going out of town?
 
Take it with a grain of salt because it's a fresh boot but there's a whole bunch of crap in the Task List? WTF is up with that? Fresh boot means you don't open anything so why is there stuff open in one of those screenshots (I dunno why it shows the Menu as a Task in Ricky's shot)

I'm not worried tho, my E71 does amazing things with less than 40MB of RAM at times.
 
Sure. The problem is that Nokia already has better stuff either available and/or in the works (see N82 and N86), yet exclude them from the top product leaving their highest tier customers with an awkward choice to go for a lower end phone for better camera or the higher end phone and left wanting.

I understand the choice for the flash, though.... Video needs LED. Still shots would be better suited by Xenon. Is it too much to ask for both? :help:

Interesting enough, customer service just called ME to verify my info since they said this is an order over $500. She told me that they released the hold but that there was no ETA yet.
 
Looks pretty fast in those videos - obviously its not running a ton of apps in the background but still... Also, the guy seems to have some probs scrolling down but that's maybe partly due to him filming at the same time - obviously not ideal but probably something one can get a hang of fairly quickly.
 
it is best to kill the battery all the way before charging it for the first time...and then repeat it for about 3 times to get the best battery performance...
 
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