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Just FWIW, these days S60 also has device management and security options. It's all standards based, unlike the BB stuff.
With a WiFi S60 phone and IMAP with IDLE, you're not even limited to your carrier (or RIM) continuing to function to get your email.
Last I checked, the address book still didn't do so well with enormous contact lists, but elsewise, I'd take Symbian over BB, especially if I didn't have a BES.
Edited to add: S60 may be pushed almost 100% by Nokia, but even a lowly person like me can get access to all the devkits and SDKs and all sorts of white papers and howtos and everything else for no charge. And it runs Python.(and perl, for that matter)
The only thing I dislike about S60 from a developer's point of view or an enterprise point of view is the security model in S60v3 (thanks Symbian 9). Symbian Signed is ridiculous in several ways. It's gotten better, but still an enterprise has to shell out for a certificate and go through the certification process to roll out an internal app to all their phones. While you can now self certify, you run the risk of being audited and having your app sent to a test house, even though it'll never leave your organization and if you fail, well, now if you want to roll out a new version, you gotta pony up for the testing fees.
That, of course, presumes that you need access to some of the restricted APIs. The other thing I dislike is even a free developer certificate that is restricted to only be good for one IMEI can't have access to all the APIs. Almost everything, but the manufacturer capabilities are still locked down unless you pay the $200 to get a real account and go through the certification process (or self certify with the aforementioned risk of eating testing fees should your app fail and you subsequently find yourself with a need to modify it)
It's my phone, I should be able to do what I want with it!
With a WiFi S60 phone and IMAP with IDLE, you're not even limited to your carrier (or RIM) continuing to function to get your email.
Last I checked, the address book still didn't do so well with enormous contact lists, but elsewise, I'd take Symbian over BB, especially if I didn't have a BES.
Edited to add: S60 may be pushed almost 100% by Nokia, but even a lowly person like me can get access to all the devkits and SDKs and all sorts of white papers and howtos and everything else for no charge. And it runs Python.(and perl, for that matter)
The only thing I dislike about S60 from a developer's point of view or an enterprise point of view is the security model in S60v3 (thanks Symbian 9). Symbian Signed is ridiculous in several ways. It's gotten better, but still an enterprise has to shell out for a certificate and go through the certification process to roll out an internal app to all their phones. While you can now self certify, you run the risk of being audited and having your app sent to a test house, even though it'll never leave your organization and if you fail, well, now if you want to roll out a new version, you gotta pony up for the testing fees.
That, of course, presumes that you need access to some of the restricted APIs. The other thing I dislike is even a free developer certificate that is restricted to only be good for one IMEI can't have access to all the APIs. Almost everything, but the manufacturer capabilities are still locked down unless you pay the $200 to get a real account and go through the certification process (or self certify with the aforementioned risk of eating testing fees should your app fail and you subsequently find yourself with a need to modify it)
It's my phone, I should be able to do what I want with it!