*OFFICIAL THREAD: Nokia E71

Theres plenty of diversions in this thread........ just scroll past them. Probably took you longer to complain then press the down arrow button.
 
Good good good! I knew the screen would be awesome under the sunlight. I had the E51 and it was truly amazing at how clear the screen was out in the sun. To me that is a very important trait when it comes to a phone. I'm soooooo ready for it to be at my doorstep!!! Feels like X-mas time :lol:
 
If I am not mistaken, the razr when released was more than $200 bucks. It was sleek and innovative and the hype around it was very high. Forget that it was still a moto and the only real innovation was the thinness and the design. Forward fast to June 2008, another very highly hyped device is announced, and it is very reasonably priced. I predict iphone2 will be one of the best selling cell phones ever.
 
Our Sonicwall will support an IPSec VPN client, and I am sure if I messed with the Cisco VPN client for S60, I might make it work, but it shouldnt be that hard. Another Hofo member sent me some info about how to try to edit the Cisco client to make it work on my E90, but I never did. With my BB I dont need VPN, the BES connection takes care of it as ALL data passes to my company network before it goes to the internet. BES creates an encrypted connection between the BB and the BES server (which is on my company network), and then passes all data destined for the internet out my company's firewall. So by default, the BES connection creates a VPN connection.

If I look at your list of apps you want on S60, they are quite different that what I want. I dont care about facebook, have never watched a movie on any device and dont play games on my phones as well. I have listened to a little music, but rarely. I am NOT saying your use of your device is wrong, quite the contrary, my point is I am a better fit for a bold than an E71. I focus on email, a little web browsing, the ability to control servers on my network and some messaging.
 
You might need to hard reset that sucka. Sounds like something is fouled up with the firmware. Also can you upload some photos to flickr so we can see the camera quality? The e71 comes with share online 3, right? Or its at least compatible with the downloadable version i assume right?
 
Haha, if you look at the picture, it does have the "outline" of an iPhone. However, there are too many side buttons, and the bottom of the phone isn't silver...
 
if this really is coming out in september i will definitely be waiting to see what HTC offers in terms of android in Q3. nokia is shooting themselves in the foot by not releasing this phone now.
 
Nah, I doubt the AT&T branding consists of anything more than what usually comes on their branded BlackBerrys. It may have more to do with the 3G signal from their towers and the effect it might have on battery life and device temp vs. Rogers or Vodafones signal properties.

Or...it may be a ploy by the Apple/AT&T partnership to sell even more 3G iPhones to some of those that have been holding off to buy the Bold...but might now be swayed to buy the iPhone because of their lack of patience. That sure wouldn't suprise me.
 
You will, more likely than not, pay for the $200 price difference over the course of the contract. If you're unlocked, you can move among GSM carriers (in this case AT&T and T-Mobile), and among pre-paid and post-paid plans according to your needs/desires/etc.

For example, the greatest cost savings, over the 2 years you have the phone, might be buying at full price and using it with one of the GoPhone pay-as-you-go plans. If the only people you call are AT&T customers, you do no messaging, and you do lots of data ... You could do unlimited talking and surfing for $50/mo. on a GoPhone SIM stuck into your E71. To get that on a contract plan, you'll have to take 450 Nation and PDA Personal == $70/mo.

A $20/mo difference is $240 in one year, $480 in two years. So, paying that extra $200 up front is going to pay for itself at the 10 month mark. If you're concerned about cost, clearly avoiding a contract is MUCH more in your interests than accepting the up-front discount that you'll have more than made up for in as little as 8 months.

If you throw in messaging, $70/mo for GoPhone, $90 for 450 Nation+PDA Personal Bundle. Same situation: $20 cheaper on a GoPhone plan. You come out WAY ahead.

What if you almost exclusively do surfing and no talking nor texting at all? $20/mo on GoPhone, $35 on contract. So, the price gap narrows a little, but the $200 price difference is still made up for in 14 months.

(and, in some cases, the carrier is giving you LESS than a $200 discount for taking the contract ... looks like AT&T mostly gives $150 discounts... you'll get your investment back in 8-10 months on a GoPhone plan)

And I haven't even thrown in the analysis of costs of "Pick Your Plan" vs contract plans.

On your "being without a phone while the non-carrier phone is under warranty service", I will say, if you buy the GoPhone packages on their web page, you can get a basic Nokia refurb for $10. Take the SIM and put it in your unlocked and factory fresh E71-2. If your E71-2 ever has a problem, you can use the cheap Nokia you got with your GoPhone SIM while the E71 is in the mail.

Obviously, the biggest concerns are:

1) What is your usage pattern? Especially if you're not using voice every day, or not using many minutes, prepaid plans can get VERY cheap compared to contract rates.

2) How much money do you have to spend up front? ... though, I bet anyone who is going to buy a smartphone can probably afford the extra $150-$200 to pay for it up front.

With AT&T, I can't think of a place where contract rates beat GoPhone rates.

With T-Mobile, it's not as dramatic nor clear cut, and depends a LOT more on what your usage pattern is (all night-time voice calls, no messaging nor data? Pay-Per-Day is $10 cheaper than 300 MyFavs or 600 Individual (if you're calling every night), so, yeah, you'll need closer to the full 2 years in order to make up the price difference, but you still come out ahead).


My only faults for the prepaid plans are:

AT&T doesn't include "Nights and Weekends" in their $1/day plan, just "Mobile to Mobile" and "basic voice access" (T-Mobile gives you all 4 for your $1/day: Nights, Weekends, M2M, basic voice access). I'd like to see AT&T include "Unlimited Nights and Weekends" in their $1/day plan. (of lesser importance, I wish their data and messaging add-ons for "pay as you go" plans were paid per day instead of paid per 30 days)

T-Mobile complete segregates voice and messaging+web on prepaid plans. If you want $1/day voice, you have to do pay-per-message for messaging, and no real web/data service (you can access THEIR web pages, to manage your account and download ringtones, and that's it). If you want $1/day for messaging/email/web, you have to have a sidekick, and all voice is pay-per-minute. I'd like to see T-Mobile combine these: any phone (not just sidekicks); $1/day for basic voice access, Nights, Weekends, M2M; $1/day for messaging, email, web.

If T-Mobile fixed theirs, and got a 3G E71 (getting back to the topic), I'd be their loyal customer forever. If they don't, and AT&T fixes theirs, I'd go with the E71-2 on their $1/day plan. If neither of them fix their issues ... I'm not sure which I'll do.

I'll probably get the E71-2, and one of those devices that lets you put 2 SIM cards in a single-SIM phone (there are versions of this that do it without having to cut the SIM cards), put T-Mobile Flexpay voice and messaging on one card and AT&T pay-as-you-go data on the other card. $75/mo for unlimited AT&T 3G data on an E71, unlimited messaging, unlimited nights, weekends, and 600 anytime minutes... all with no contract. (just for the record: unlimited nights and weekends is probably the most important factor for my voice usage patterns) To get that with AT&T, I'd pay $110/mo (though, I'd get a little more than 600 minutes).

The disadvantage to my plan is: I would have to do "voice and messaging" _OR_ "AT&T 3G data" at any given time (though, for t-mobile, email and instant messaging are included in "messaging", so that's not quite as limiting as it may sound). If I was ok with being limited to EDGE speed, I could use the E71-2 with T-Mobile only, and pay just $61/mo. Or, I could have it be "voice and messaging and EDGE-speed-web" _OR_ "At&t 3G data" ... for $81/mo. Either way, I get the one benefit of AT&T (3G data) for $29-$35/mo cheaper.


In any case, wasting my money on a contract just isn't in the cards.
 
Maybe Im wrong but Im pretty sure only Blackberry's are under the BB plans. They will try to put this under the PDA/Smart phone plan. Thats why you buy unlocked and use the mediamax plan.
 
Dude that's the good part of having the EU version.. The price for the NAM edition will go down very fast due too many E71-2 in the US, too many retailers have em.

Look at the N95 NAM... I just saw one for $350 on ebay.. Can't compete because there are just too many people selling them.
 
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