Nokia N80 with 4 GB Mini SD card

Well i am probably one of the first 50 people to get a mini 4 gig sd as they were just released i have a great source for memory as a friend of mine owns probably the largest memory inventory in the U.S



I had a feeling it was due to the fat 32 i will attempt to do a fat 16 but i am going to have to use a third party app to do so,as windows won`t let me.

I will post the results
 
moto implementation of memory card usage is weak.. se and nokia seem to be better at is at this point.. as files seem to be read and used at a faster rate...

i want 10 gig too.. as long as it's reasobably priced
 
No offense, but why are you posting this again? I don't want to shell out a lot of money for something that "seems" to work. I want conclusive evidence that the N80 (and other phones) is able to read and write to all sectors (especially those above the 2GB barrier) of the card without errors.
 
Thanks for posting this information. This should prove that the OS 9.1a at the core of the S603rd Edition DOES indeed support more than 2GB. Because of this proof then this throughs out Monkey's well documented - and respected - informative insight on this matter. This may also bring to light the thought that this MiniSD chipset is "limited" to only recognizing FAT16/32 external memory cards AS 2GB maximum. (remember when not all Pocket PC 2002 edition models support SDIO cards? and even some not supporting MMC by design?!)

Moreover another thought is because the N91 has an internal 4GB HDD THEN its possible that there are specific 'extensions' to its firmware that DO recognize more than 2GB memory OR its because its part of the Z: drive OR something else?

Any Hackers/Coders/Engineers tend to comment on this hypothesis?
 
Yes, here is what I found about that 4GB hard drive in the Nokia N91. There is ALOT more detail about that hardrive..if u want the entire N91 review or other Nokia reviews by this gentlemen, pm me

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The drive is manufactured by Hitachi, I shall remind you that it has purchased the division of IBM, which claimed the title of pioneers in the field of these devices. The name of the line-up was corresponding - Microdrive. Nokia N91 features a new model of this drive ? Microdrive 3K4-4. Its characteristics are quite good and to some extent can be compared to flash memory:

Cache buffer 128 Кб
Speed 3600 rpm
Latency Average ? 8.33 ms
Media Transfer Rate ? 57.1-97.9 (max. Mbits/s)
Sustained Data Rate ? 4.3-7.2 (Mb/s)
Seek time (read, typical) ? 12 ms, track to track ? 1 ms, full track ? 22 ms
Limit of 300000 cycles of on/off
Those, who are fond of digging in the internal part of phones, will be surprised by the fact that the hard drive, featured in Nokia N91 has the dimensions of 32х24 mm, rather than the standard 42х36 mm. The explanation lies in use of CompactFlash II connector by most of the companies, incorporating Microdrive disks into their solutions, though Nokia declined the idea of using a disk in the standard shell. It means that the hard drive, presented here is an analogue of Microdrive 3K4-4, but it differs in shell, which was replaced by a special socket on Nokia N91 chip (located lower than the camera?s module, but above the battery, exactly under the safety casing). The developers applied here not only floating support for the disk, but also a special casing, which amortizes all blows. From above the disk is also protected by a soft rubber cover, which deflects frontal blows and lowers noise level at the same time. To tell the truth, one can rarely hear the disk itself ? only in cases when you hold the handset in your hands do some inhumane experiments, e.g. open the rear lid and instantly pull out the battery. The interface connector is designed specially for this model and is aimed at lowering the place, occupied by the hard drive.

The cover has a pressure sensor, so once the battery's cover is removed, the disk automatically turns off. This process takes up to one second. Another precaution is acceleration sensor ? in case the device is falling from a height more than 1 meter, the hard disk switches off, so it may avoid a certain amount of damage, since exactly when turned on, the disk is vulnerable to mechanical effects. For good reason we didn?t try to carry out stress tests, since all throws could hurt the screen, rather than the hard drive, because protection level featured in Nokia N91 is higher than in all other devices using Microdrive. There are some numbers regarding durability of iPOD Mini ? after a certain period operation most of devices work fine, and no wonder about it, as here the developers also used the system, applied to N91.
 
That's not my real concern.

Sure, maybe 4GB will work ... but how didn't Nokia say its 2GB max? How did Topram "bypass that"?
And even if 4Gb does work, is the "performance" as great as 2GB ... or will be sluggish?
 
I knew about the Microdrive technology; I'm more interested in the format of the drive itself Fat 16/32 and the core extensions of the Symbian 9.1a/S60-3RD Edition to allow 4GB used.
 
Believe me, posting here will not help to sell more cards, just share info, I can as well change my ID to other name to hide my identity, but I didn't : )

Many N80 in USA test not work on 4GB miniSD, the one we test (we spend time and efforts on this) .. is the Italy N80 Nokia model (see photo with the a TiM LOGO there)

I can provide more info on the firmware version and test above 2GB if I can, report me and remove me, this info is ... sorry, not available.

If I need to post here to make $$ .. think again .. I have better things to do : )

Just shareing information .... no offense ...
 
FAT16? What is Nokia thinking?
With the capacities of memory cards ever increasing, they should have at least implemented FAT32 support in the N series.
 
If you can test out a few N80s with different firmwares on it, and a 4GB does indeed work flawlessly with them, I'd buy a card.

I'll bet a lot of other people would buy one too.

Good luck with the testing!
 
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