Nokia N80 with 4 GB Mini SD card

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doubtless

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Just got a 4 gb mini sd card and it does not work just thought i would see if any one could explain why or has an idea to resolve this issue?
 
do ppl really want 4 GB on a phone, even if it works, the phone will run very slow.
I have a motorola rokr E2 with 2 GB mini SD, I never even reach 512MB.
 
I think the phone can only recognize up to 2 gb. I have a 2gb mini sd for my N80. where did you get the 4gb miniSD? I am not able to locate 4 gb miniSD anywhere...
 
Of course we need 4GB. At this very moment I have 1.18GB of MP3's, 8 episodes of the X-Men animated series, close to 400 pictures although those are from my 6620 so that's why I can fit so many (I really need to go through these), and some applications. That leaves me with a bit over 100MB of free space. If I had 4GB I could fit an entire season or two of X-Men and twice as much music and that would only be good.
I'm really happy to hear that FAT32 with 4KB clusters is being recognized by E61. There is hope then and the key might be the cluster size. Thank you for digging the up and checking Friedbrains. Now, who has a 4GB miniSD? I checked EBay and there is only one questionable seller that has two of them.
 
There is a very basic reason why your 4GB card is not being recognized by your phone. All the Nokias only read and write FAT16 file systems on the expandable memory media. Now, FAT16 file system has a limitation of 2GB on a single volume. This is the bottom line, technical reason why a 4GB card won't work in any of the Nokia phones and no firmware upgrades will change that. The only thing that might be any kind of possibility here to circumvent that limitation would be to format the card with 2 separate 2GB partitions. However, I seriously doubt it that the phones will actually support what would pretty much amount to having two separate memory cards. I don't think that the Series60 supports that and I have doubts that the underlying Symbian OS itself will actually support that. I suspect that the phone would either not boot with a 4GB card with two partitions on it or in the best case, would only see one of the two partitions. For one thing, I don't think that the phone would know what to do witht the second partition and the OS and/or Series60 GUI doesn't even know that it should assign a different drive letter to it if it is present. Chances here are slim to none. Still worth trying though.
I'm actually glad to see that this has become a question this quickly. It was only a matter of time before the 4GB miniSD cards became available and this issue became a question. So, you Erkk, have the unique opportunity here to become the first person on HoFo to try and format your 4GB card with two 2GB FAT16 partitions and stick it in your phone and tell us all what happens. I really don't see how it could damage anything, your phone will probably just not see the card, not see the second partition, or just not boot at all with the card formatted that way. Let us know what happens if you decide to do this, or either sell the card of find some other use for it.
Cheers and good luck....
 
Well, I have a lot of music; but I dont want to carry an ipod. One gig was fine for me with my K750, but with the N73, I would like to watch movies also, so that's where a 4 gig comes in handy. Although 2 gigs works with N73 and would be enough, 4 gigs would be awesome if it worked.
 
That's the ticket, however as I mentioned in my previous post, FAT (or FAT16 as it is actually called) only supports 2GB volumes/partitions - and that's the "no go" on that ticket.
 
actual it runs ok on the rokr, the phones supports upto 2 Gb, but for other phones, the phones run slow if you use a size above there stated specification, may be if ppl buy a hi speed cards it may work better.

I might try a 4 GB on my phone, just to see if my phone supports it.

kms
 
Wow, I really thought I had a good chance at a "told you so" moment. Logic led me to believe that a flash drive would act as a standard block device, capable of partitioning etc. So I dug up my 128MB card, popped it in my N80, set it to 'data storage' mode and entered the logical disk manager. Well, what do you know... the 'delete partition' option was grayed out.

I wonder if you could do it in Linux? Then again, that'd be a lot of hassle for most people.

-Pete
 
Fixed the FAT16 typo

And yeah that's true... I suppose Two 2 GB partitions is the only way out for now..if they both are recognized a seperate driver letters too.. otherwise, it defeats the purporse of having a 4GB!
 
yea, this is cool, i want to see this thing too... surely S60 should consider supporting FAT32... there must be something on the pipeline though...
 
I tried it on Linux an it was a no go as well. The reason that i tried is because I bumped into a flash drive distributed for free as part of marketing that had a hidden partition on it marked as a CD-Rom drive of all things. It was really clever really since the moment you would put it into your computer, your machine would recognize the regular partion as a disk drive and the hidden one as a second CD-Rom drive, the kicker being that the hidden partition had an autorun.inf that would kick off a full screen flash presentation on your computer. Very annoying but effective. Me and a couple of collegues at work attempted to get rid of the hidden partiotion and that's when we found out that partitioning a flash drive is not possible without some highly specialized software. I think that repartitioning is not the way to go here since it would be rather difficult and even if you do manage to create two partiotions on a 4GB card, chances of both of them being recognized simultanously by a S60 phone are rather slim to none. I think that reformatting a 4GB card with FAT32 with 4KB cluster size has higher chances of success as Friedbrains demonstrated - maybe the key is not the file format itself but the cluster size since E61 recognizes Fat32 with 4KB clusters. Who's got a 4GB miniSD card?
 
Maybe they disabled part of the controller on that flash drive?

I know you certainly can partition flash memory on linux... it's in the various howto's for creating bootable flash drives.

If anyone has a 4GB card and wants to try it out, I recommend downloading the Kubuntu ISO, and booting it. It won't install to your Desktop unless you tell it to, it runs as a LiveCD by default. That way you can boot up and use parted and the various mkfs.* tools to creat filesystems.

You can, btw, set the sector size with mkfs.vfat. So it's entirely possible to create 4K sectors.
 
I started this thread & i hate to regretly say there are still no 4gb mini sd cards available. The one i purchased is for sure ia fake... I even emailed the company of the brand of 4gb mini i had which is (NCP brand) and they told me they do not have a 4gb mini sd card on the market yet.

For those who are considering buying a 4gb mini sd card DO NOT buy the fake NCP or no name brand. I got it for a ridiculous low price of 40$ and then i found out the site in which i purchased were scam artists and it is now suspended.

bunk site:
 
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