Noel Clarke - Rising Star? at the Baftas??

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I mean seriously... he's pretty rubbish. He was up against Michael Cera and Michael Fassbender - I was thinking, if not Michael Fassbender then definitely Michael Cera should get it but it seems, all the people in the UK texted there way to vote for the actor in the film about underground London which was as equally Rubbish as this guy...

Seriously - get some real people to vote on these things!
 
He did have the slight advantage of it being an online vote, and he being in a tv show with one of, if not the, biggest online fanbase.

Kidulthood is a really good film though.
 
Adulthood? What?

It's a ridiculous film and I know outright that it was published and advertised via a marketing campaign to give it NOT (not being the operative word) critical acclaim (because it's not critical acclaim) but good advertisement as quality - when it was far from it.

He had a break starring in Kidulthood and then attempted to direct the second one (failing) and living off the abilities of somebody else. He is not good. He got people to vote for him in an award (probably Dr.Who fans, in fact I am sure that can be backed up).

Sorry, critical acclaim can be used all over the place but not here. Scrunching up your face is not acting.
 
The other four were easily far and above the rest. When he mentioned he wanted Brad Pitt to win, you could see it without question he was envious of Dev Patel being voted as a nomination for Best actor, when he said "but I hope Slumdog does well but Brad Pitt to win".

It's the biggest problem with the UK. Soon as somebody gets publicity, we lap it up non-stop and can't see quality for what it is.

This award should be voted for by the academy and has no relevance as an online poll.
 
a) just because you don't think he should win does not make it a fact

b) since he was short-listed by BAFTA he may well have won even if it had not been a public vote, especially since his work on that film was so highly praised.

c) the fact that it is a public vote means that the whole point is that they vote for who they want to, even if they disagree with you.

Never have I come across a less logical poster than you in all my time on RAB!
 
Well on first accounts I started a thread to discuss this not to be insulted and abused at whim and attacked without cause or provocation.

There is no reference to fact although you can continue to talk about it, fact, but there is no question of fact but if you want to talk facts, we can talk facts and the simple fact that the actors I mentioned have far more nominations and awarRAB than Noel could ever muster without help from agencies and the aim to please.

Thefore, factfully speaking and quite inarguably in terms of logic, they are more deserving than ever. So that's one point covered and this point is indeniably strengthened with the fact - the other actors are given roles and are sought for roles - Noel Clarke made a film about London (fake, fabricated, hyperboled for scandal) which he didn't merit, considering it was others work and his second film (which you deemed critical acclaim, although, not really) failed miserably even though it was made to live off the success of the first which was also brought out for a younger generation and didn't really fit the bill.

That is a fact.

Second point - His work on the film was not highly praised. This has nothing to do with the film or otherwise - it's about a rising star - I.E. The body of an individuals work in something. When your film fails, it doesn't do much for you now does it. All that advertising and publishing and then you have to get Doctor Who fans to vote for you in a poll to win. Not much there is there.

Your third point makes no sense to the thread or even the voting structure and also the merits of the award. The first question is why was he there, which moves on to the second point where actors with massive, more evident and mountains of praise and awarRAB were pushed aside for him - why? That is the reason for this thread.

Apart from living off the merits of others, what has he done? The answer is - zilch, zero, nothing. Nada.

That's logic and backed up with facts with no real insults or abuse or even feeling the need to just attack a poster.
 
There is only 1 person who truly should have won that award and that is Michael Fassbender (300/Eden Lake/Hunger).

Noel Clarke?! :confused: Good speech tho!
 
Noel Clarke was on BBC TV quite a lot the week when BAFTA's online poll went live.
I guess this greatly helped get him votes.

Personally I couldn't stand him in Doctor Who and have never seen his other work.
 
I was suprised, but more than happy to see him win it. He was great in Kidulthood (which was a really good movie) and pretty good in Adulthood too (which he directed). He wrote the pilot of West10LDN which was also very good, and should have been commissioned.

So thats acting, screen writing and directing on his CV already.

A multi talented, ultra creative, succesful young Brit winning the rising star award at the Baftas- Whats the problem? :confused:

He might not appeal to you, but this was a public vote, meaning he clearly has a fanbase.

Fair plays to the lad.
 
Ultra Creative and Successful? He's a random stand in actor on BBC shows and starred in a film about life in London - which is just about what people talk about htere.

He won because he was on Dr. Who. That enRAB it.

He would appeal to me if he was good and versatile - he is not.
 
It was hugely embarrassing for us as a country to see him win alongside real rising talent, real actors and actresses. Very disappointing.

Especially considering we had so many young people presenting awarRAB who have achieved 10 times more than Noel Clarke has but they where on the horizon. Strange... in fact it's not...
 
I do think that Doctor Who fans will have had some effect on a poll.

Funnily enough his name is so closely associated with Doctor Who that there are ebay adverts for Dalek and Cybermen figures appearing at the bottom of this very page right now.:D
 
I am glad he won he deseved it. I would have preffered Michael Cera as he was my favourite out of them all, and thats who i voted for but i didn't mind Noel Clarke winnig.
 
He wrote Kidulthood aswell as writing and directing Adulthood. Surely the reason he starred in the first one is because he had so much to do with the film behind the scenes? Rather than getting a break/getting lucky that you seem to imply....

Both are critically acclaimed films (though the first film more than the second I'll grant you). The fact that they are known, and have been successful where other British films about the same subject haven't, says a lot.

I wanted Toby Kebbell as I think he's a wonderful actor, but you cannot ignore Noel's very respectable achievements. I don't thnk many of the others nominated have written and directed alongside acting.

It can't be denied that he will have gained votes from Doctor Who fans but he may have won regardless of being in the show.
 
How did he win a rising star award when he's been in Doctor Who (on and off) since 2005? Hardly a rising star although fair credit to him if people think he's talented. He did say hard work can make dreams possible, which is a good sentiment. You can have all the talent but without putting in the hard work you don't get anywhere!
 
I had to test this critical acclaim and so looked up reviews

For Kidulthood

http://www.totalfilm.com/reviews/cinema/kidulthood 3 stars out of 5

http://www.timeout.com/film/newyork/reviews/83377/Kidulthood.html Just a mocking review

http://www.viewlondon.co.uk/films/kidulthood-film-review-14776.html 3 stars out of 5

http://www.bbc.co.uk/films/2006/02/03/kidulthood_2006_review.shtml 3 stars out of 5

http://www.channel4.com/film/reviews/film.jsp?id=154245&section=review&page=2#reviewnav 2.5 stars out of 5

For Adulthood

http://www.timeout.com/film/reviews/85576/adulthood.html 3 stars out of 6

http://www.indielondon.co.uk/Film-Review/adulthood-review a damning review

http://entertainment.timesonline.co...tainment/film/film_reviews/article4165968.ece Severely damning review from The Times

http://www.channel4.com/film/reviews/film.jsp?id=167026&section=review 3 stars out of 5 from Channel 4

http://www.maxim.co.uk/entertainment/movies/12870/adulthood.html 3 stars out of 5

http://www.timeout.com/film/reviews/85576/adulthood.html?cpage=4&ccat=11 3 stars out of 6

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/reviews/dvd-review-adulthood-15-963893.html 2 stars out of 6 from the Independent

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/...reviews-The-Escapist,-Adulthood-and-more.html Telegraph adRAB to complete criticism.

I think Critically damned is more appropriate to his films than Critically acclaimed which continues to beg the question, more so adamantly now - WHY?
 
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